Quote from: klondike on July 18, 2022, 09:11:18 AMIt none of them win it will be Sunak continuing his highest tax burden in decades policy and ignoring the pain of millions. In short a guaranteed win for Labour at the next election rather than the Labour/Lib/SNP coalition that would be the case had Boris continued or any of the others become PM. The Tories are now a busted flush by their own hands. Proof once again that oppositions don't win, governments lose.

The only bit of hope for the Tories is that the Labour Party in-fighting is far greater than that of the Tories.

Starmer and Rayner are looking more like allies in public than they can possibly be politically. I think it was Alex speculating that there could even be some hanky panky going on although I really can't see that as being likely.

Quote from: klondike on July 18, 2022, 09:57:48 AMStarmer and Rayner are looking more like allies in public than they can possibly be politically. I think it was Alex speculating that there could even be some hanky panky going on although I really can't see that as being likely.

I suppose Starmer, like most blokes, won't be averse to a bit of rough. 

Quote from: Diasi on July 17, 2022, 12:26:30 PMBadenoch is duplicitous & self-serving.

Well what did I tell ya!!

Badenoch, who was dismissive of net-zero when she started her campaign, is now fully committed to it.

Not so ' poorly thought through ' after all then  ?

Quote from: Diasi on July 18, 2022, 05:50:00 PMWell what did I tell ya!!

Badenoch, who was dismissive of net-zero when she started her campaign, is now fully committed to it.

Hadn't heard that. Well thats the end of her too then. What a motley and slippery bunch they all are. Incidentally none of them can deny 'nett-zero'. We committed to it in the 'EU Exit Agreement'. So once again the UK is run on rails by Europe, but the Green taxes could still be rebated for a moratorium of relief in this current maelstrom of price rises! We need to axe the 'Brexit Agreement via Article 16 and free ourselves from the chains on Nett Zero, the ECHR and the Refugees Convention of 1951. We won't of course, no desire and no guts anywhere!

Also. In the last three days of her 'Premiership' Theresa May passed a bill through 'unopposed' to reduce our target of nett zero FROM 2050 down TO 2030.

Why? ...

I now longer care about who wins or loses, from here on, it's pointless!

because she could - and I have a sneaky suspicion that she did it to make live difficult for her successor - it's a stupid target, unattainable without inflicting a lot of hardship on the general population
Mike

So the choice will be between Sunak (high tax for those who can't dodge it as he and his wife have shown they can) Mordant (woke trans rights supporter) or the remainer Truss (May Mk2 as labelled by Farage).

I reckon Starmer should ask if he can measure up for wallpaper now before inflation doubles the price by the time he moves in within the next couple of years or so.

It takes some skill to whittle down a lack lustre bunch to probably the three worst options.

Perhaps we'd be better with Boris?

I think you're right Sheila.   

Boris was the best... But his own worse enemy..

I'd like to know why none of them has promised to do anything about all these dingy people arriving here. Am I missing something? Is there a bung for the MPs going on somewhere?

What is the SNP position on this?

Probably none as it doesn't effect them.

The MPs won't know that it has any impact on them either until they find themselves looking for proper jobs.

 " More than 1,800 Conservative party members have written to the Tory party chairman in less than 12 hours to demand a vote on whether Boris Johnson should carry on as leader and add his name to the leadership ballot " 

it won't happen