It's absolutely disgraceful that an MP has to step down for fear of his life from Islamic extremists
Mike Freer has pro Israel views and represents Golders Green where there is a large Jewish community .
There is a campaign of violent intimidation around the world, to make it impossible for people to support Israel's right to defend its people.
This is the U.K. which used to be the country of freedom of expression
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February 01, 2024, 09:11:33 AM
May be fear of extremists but could also be fear of voters. I suspect a lot of Tories must have twitchy bums and will be checking out alternate careers. Better to jump rather than be pushed. He doesn't have a commanding majority and the LibDems look to be in with a chance from the results last time around or even Labour I suppose,
Quote from: muddy on February 01, 2024, 05:10:36 AMThis is the U.K. which used to be the country of freedom of expression
In just one sentence you say it all... 'Used to be'.
Freedom of speech comes with a big price tag these days.
Teacher Who Showed Class Image of Mohammed Still in Hiding Three Years Later...
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/01/31/uk-teacher-who-showed-class-image-of-mohammed-still-in-hiding-three-years-later/
No one should be under threat from these extremists. I was reading today about a thirteen year old girl, of Pakistani heritage, whose father was marrying her off in Pakistan. 13 years old! The British Embassy has stepped in, and she's back in the UK. What a disgusting example of fatherhood. Assimilate, integrate, or return to a mediaeval country. The government should be getting the message across.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13030293/British-girl-13-dramatically-saved-forced-marriage-cousin-Pakistan.html#:~:text=A%2013%2Dyear%2Dold%20British,to%20the%20UK%20last%20weekend.
Quote from: klondike on February 01, 2024, 09:26:59 AMFreedom of speech comes with a big price tag these days.
Teacher Who Showed Class Image of Mohammed Still in Hiding Three Years Later...
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/01/31/uk-teacher-who-showed-class-image-of-mohammed-still-in-hiding-three-years-later/
I knew nothing about this, it's disgusting and those groups of terrorists (they are in a way) should be removed to their own countries of origin. Why won't our leaders step up and do their jobs properly. As said in another post This USED to be a great country. Time these types were removed from our shores, and kept removed, accept the ways of this country or go back.
Quote from: Raven on February 01, 2024, 10:24:19 AMI knew nothing about this, it's disgusting and those groups of terrorists (they are in a way) should be removed to their own countries of origin. Why won't our leaders step up and do their jobs properly. As said in another post This USED to be a great country. Time these types were removed from our shores, and kept removed, accept the ways of this country or go back.
Why won't our leaders step up and do their jobs.. !!!Because our leaders are changing.. !!!
Gone are the days of Churchill and Atlee .. They have been replaced by Sunak, Javid and Raab...
And there are many in Parliament who would like to say 'Be off'.. but dare not..
Raab was accused of bullying. He said he'd resign if the inquiry decided he was a bully. It decided he was. He resigned. You may be able to say boo to a goose but it seems that you can't to a civil servant.
Good riddance another 'One Nation' grouper gone. Shame he didn't quit now and cause another Bi-election defeat.
The Iron Lady invented the term "Wets". Were she still around she'd be very very rusty these days. Instead of the Tories being a party with a few bad apples they are now a party with very few good ones.
Even if the 'Wets' still hold the voting balance amongst MP's (as they probably will because the WEF selects their seats) they'll be emaciated in comparison to their domination now. More significantly they'll be in opposition for maybe 15 years or all time, as the Islamic vote exponentially weighs in Labour's favour.
I would recommend Mr Freer to upgrade his Kevlar vest to a full suit of armour and move with his husband to a fall out shelter ...
I don't care that the man is a Tory .
No elected representative of the people should be threatened with murder .
I think you probably missed that this has drifted a bit off topic as is usually the case. Nobody has condoned or excused the threats.
What people or at least our rulers don't realise that Islamism is the enemy within.
It does not tolerate Britain's traditions and so Britain must become an intolerably hostile place for this ideology and its adherents.
Too long we have tolerated the intolerant .
Enemy within.. !!
And therein lies the problem.. We have opened our doors (wide) .. We even help those to invade our shores..
We allow them to apply for asylum (many times) after they have been convicted of a serious offence ( Abdul Shokoor Ezedi ).. Simply because they have found Christianity..
We seem to have idiots running our country.. Or are they ?
I think they know exactly what they are doing.. They are skilfully taking over..
To what aim ?
We know Islam intends to conquer the world but how does it benefit our present rulers ?
Quote from: muddy on February 01, 2024, 04:31:28 PMI don't care that the man is a Tory .
No elected representative of the people should be threatened with murder .
A bit sententious, you are presenting an argument, by delineation and certainly one I didn't offer.
Quote from: muddy on February 02, 2024, 08:08:56 AMTo what aim ?
We know Islam intends to conquer the world but how does it benefit our present rulers ?
I suspect that they, like the police now, are afraid of them and daren't do anything to inflame them.
Alternatively, they know that so many of our own young people would rather not bother with working when they can easily claim the Dole, so their solution is to import cheap third-world people to do the jobs.
As someone who has never claimed the dole in my life how do people do it ?
https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance
I'm not sure you can if claiming a pension but good luck anyway. These days you never know. Let us know how you get on.
Quote from: JBR on February 02, 2024, 03:48:42 PMI suspect that they, like the police now, are afraid of them and daren't do anything to inflame them.
Alternatively, they know that so many of our own young people would rather not bother with working when they can easily claim the Dole, so their solution is to import cheap third-world people to do the jobs.
I sincerely hope that the pupil who has brought the case for a prayer room at the Michaela school doesn't win. Education should be secular, and integration encouraged.
https://schoolsweek.co.uk/michaela-school-taken-to-high-court-over-prayer-ban/
Quote from: GrannyMac on February 02, 2024, 06:07:11 PMI sincerely hope that the pupil who has brought the case for a prayer room at the Michaela school doesn't win. Education should be secular, and integration encouraged.
https://schoolsweek.co.uk/michaela-school-taken-to-high-court-over-prayer-ban/
I completely agree, but I have a horrible feeling that at least some places will just back down to avoid the conflict and possible legal action.
They are winning!
Quote from: Cassandra on February 01, 2024, 01:31:58 PMGood riddance another 'One Nation' grouper gone. Shame he didn't quit now and cause another Bi-election defeat.
I totally agree.
The media referred to his family being in danger so I assumed that meant his wife & kids, but I now read that he's a homosexual & his partner is called 'the husband', so I assume that Freer is 'the wife' & the one who's classed as the 'taker'.
That is so bloody prejudiced
What has the man done to deserve this sort of abuse ?
So he's gay does that mean it's ok to threaten his life or to set fire to his office .
Yes he may have a husband , he probably also has a mother or sisters and brothers I don't know.
He has I understand people who work for him .
They have to wear stab vests too.
It doesn't matter what his politics or gender he should not be in fear of his life from Islamic manics.
Quote from: muddy on February 03, 2024, 08:38:38 AMThat is so bloody prejudiced
What has the man done to deserve this sort of abuse ?
So he's gay does that mean it's ok to threaten his life or to set fire to his office .
Yes he may have a husband , he probably also has a mother or sisters and brothers I don't know.
He has I understand people who work for him .
They have to wear stab vests too.
It doesn't matter what his politics or gender he should not be in fear of his life from Islamic manics.
I refer you to Cassandra's post #16.
Assuming you're able to understand it.
You can refer me to whoever you like .
I don't like your coarse language and your patronising manner
I assume you can understand that !
Now now, karm down folks karm down :cool:
I'm cool 😎
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Mike freer was intimidated .
Another that was intimidated was the Apollo theatre London which cancelled an event hosted by Douglas Murray in aid of Isreali reservists .
The event was moved and was a great sucess but here we have another example of freedom of speech being suppressed .
We , as a race, are being suppressed .. We are told on a daily basis what we can and cannot do.. Mostly we oblige because we fear not to..
We certainly are being taken over by others..
One day it is going to boil over and when it does it could be very nasty.
Suppress people long enough and they become weaker.. They accept all rules..
The suppressers become more powerful..
It all reminds me of films from way back...
People going about their daily business like robots.. A voice is in charge..
Even being told when it is their time to die.. Fiction.. !!!!
One day could become fact..
Quote from: Scrumpy on February 05, 2024, 10:59:55 AMWe , as a race, are being suppressed .. We are told on a daily basis what we can and cannot do.. Mostly we oblige because we fear not to..
We certainly are being taken over by others..
The biggest worry right now is who we are being taken over by. Muslims.
For some reason, our appointed government wants even more of them, and is determined to attract them here by offering things they cannot get in any other European country. That is the root cause of the increasing numbers of invaders sailing across the Channel until they find a Border Farce taxi.
I am constantly reminded in the press that Labour will take charge later this year, and will encourage even more invaders. White British protesters in Londonistan provide even more support.
It seems that this country has a death wish, and I see only a bleak future for us.
I can't say I see things much differently but do sometimes wonder if I'm not just getting old and intolerant. I saw that in my father and just wonder...
I have just hear the editor of the Catholic Herald ( formally an Anglian Bishop ) saying that the asylum seekers ruse of claiming to be Christians is just to deceive the authorities .
As we suspected - !
He says there is an entire army of lawyers fabricating cases for asylum seekers to stay in the U.K.
We knew this too !
Apparently 40 asylum seekers have converted to Christianity .
Yeah right !
Lawyers aim is to obtain wealth.. They care not what they advise just so long as their pockets are lined..
If they can get away with it.. good luck to them..
The authorities are the idiots..
Quote from: klondike on February 05, 2024, 11:55:47 AMI can't say I see things much differently but do sometimes wonder if I'm not just getting old and intolerant. I saw that in my father and just wonder...
Perhaps I am old and intolerant. I was discussing such things as this with Marge this morning and her attitude was basically 'what will be will be'.
She's right. I'm 71, she's 62, we live in a decent area not particularly noticeable for its muslim immigrants. Actually, in our 'village' we have a church and a synagogue - no mosques... yet. There are areas of course, further into Manchester, which are heavily muslim areas, but even then there are far worse areas than Manchester heading for muslim take-overs. What happens to this country in the future is for the young to decide; they are the ones who must live with it.
We shall continue to live as we do, not bother to worry about something which so many of our politicians and other leaders seem unafraid of, and just let the world go by. In 30 years I shall not be here, and Marge will be of an age when she doesn't really care! 😁👍