Was pleased to see this in the News this morning. Vet bills are a damn disgrace. I was £500 about 18 months ago for Dageus to get 3 teeth out :wtf: I felt quite faint when I was told how much it was, THEN, I was a further £200 as he took a bad reaction to one of the meds he was given, he came out in 2 big sores that stank and oozed. I know there's insurance but most won't insure dogs over 8/10 years old. I did find one that would take him but it was around £60 a month and would go up yearly. I point blank refused to pay it, it's just a racket. I felt it was pure robbery. I now put money away every week incase I should need to take him to the Vet.
BBC News - Vet prices review over fears pet owners are being overcharged
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66733077
we stopped insuring Fleur when she was ten and the insurance premium rocketed (to be fair, so did my BUPA premium when I reached 60, so that was stopped as well!). Like you, we just made sure that money would be available if needed. Once we stopped the insurance there were a few bills from time to time, but nothing that we saw as unreasonable. Our vet was in Blairgowrie and there another practice in the town, which may have a bearing. I have looked back at the vet's bills for the five and a half years by which Fleur survived her tenth birthday but nothing ever came remotely close to £500 There were ten visits - an annual check-up, and some one-offs - I remember one was when she fell badly from a chair and had some anti-inflammatory tablets, and a couple of treatments for a UTI, The final, and saddest, was for her cremation. I had her individually cremated and have her ashes in a very attractive container with her name inscribed on a brass plate - and even all that was well short of £200.
Raven, the more I think about it, the more outrageous £500 for three teeth seems. I've just looked up what we spent on Fleur after we stopped the insurance. Excluding her cremation, ten visits, which included five 'MOTs', cost a total of £416.63. Fleur died in February 2019 so there has been inflation since, but surely nothing to explain £500! Perhaps they relate the size of the bill to the size of the dog - Dageus is much bigger than Fleur was (joke!)
What rules me even more Raven, is that they gave him meds (which you no doubt paid for) which made him ill and they asked for £200 to correct their mistake?!?
How does that work????
to their advantage! I do know that vet's bills are much higher in some areas. My late sister lived in Kingston-upon-Thames - SW London, expensive area, and she seemed to be forever paying a fortune in vets bills for her cat.
Apropos of nothing (sorry Raven for the brief detour), we used to go Kingston once a year from Chiswick to visit the big Bentalls and Evans Outsizes. Lovely place🥹😊
When one our cats became ill last year her treatment cost us around £2,500 in total as we didn't have her insured.
We've now insured our remaining three cats, on one policy, for around £32pm (I've just discovered that I can't find any of the electronic insurance documents so I'll have to phone Tesco so this thread has done me a big favour).
Our Yorkie's insurance is £48.54pm, up from £33.48pm last year.
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 07, 2023, 08:38:00 AMWhat rules me even more Raven, is that they gave him meds (which you no doubt paid for) which made him ill and they asked for £200 to correct their mistake?!?
How does that work????
I had to pay for everything, :cry: not their fault my dog reacted badly to their meds. :sad: Our vet charges £50 just to look at your dog, before any treatment, I expect it's the same with cats.
The Clydes are even more, plus the call out charge, as they don't fit in the vets waiting room. :wink:
We are lucky that all 3 animals have had very little need of a vet in their lives.......So far.
£50 just to look? Bleedinellfire! Is he by chance the ony vet for miles around?
I expect his travel expenses are high. Those Rollers and Ferraris don't come cheap and use fuel like there's no tomorrow.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 07, 2023, 10:11:13 AM£50 just to look? Bleedinellfire! Is he by chance the ony vet for miles around?
Yes they have 2 practices, one here and the other in Wick. You may have seen them on the TV, they are the Vets who are in the the programme Highland Vets.
My son is with Fair Ciry Vets in Perth and it's £50 there to see your pet as well. Daylight robbery.
https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/thurso-vets-take-starring-roles-in-third-tv-series-237581/
https://youtu.be/Exj8WU6YBzk?si=b3JPEcJKeeSvUekp
Nice littler earner being a Vet... It always has been..
The insurance companies are making a bomb.. To cope with costs of treatment most people choose to use insurance cover..
My dentist insurance is around 35 pm.. I used to have Bupa but they shot themselves in the foot when their premiums went sky high..
So many people are having to give up their pets, many are abandoned simply because of the cost of keeping them fed and healthy. Vets are rich people in the main, wouldn't it be a good idea if they had lower charges for people on lower incomes ?
That's where the PDSA used to come in, but, they pulled the rug out from so many people when they stopped working with private vets. You will now only get help from them if your able to go to one of their own vet surgeries. BUT, you have to live in the catchment area.
As I mentioned, Fleur had five paid for 'MOTs' after we ended her insurance - they increased slightly over the five years, average £35 which included checking vital signs, checking the chip was still in the right position, usually a scrape of the teeth, a blood sample (not sure if that was always taken, but certainly at least on a couple of occasions, because I entered in my diary 'so much blood from so little a dog!' and there may have been other things that I have forgotten - oh, nails clipped if needed , and she was weighed of course, whereupon we would be congratulated on not letting her get overweight, something to which if over-indulged CKCs are very prone - we saw some real fatties over the years
Variable.
One of our cats, a few weeks ago, had an injury on her jaw which kept bleeding and scabbing over repeatedly.
The first vet, had a quick look, prescribed a tube of ointment, £75.
We followed the instructions for a couple of weeks, but no improvement, so went back.
The second vet (an Australian woman) had a better look and found that there was a distinct puncture wound, probably from another cat, prescribed some oral medications, £70
This time, success. The injury has now healed up completely and the cat is much happier and more lively, as she used to be several weeks ago.
Vets do seem to have some magic medicines though. At least three or four times - dog looking very down in the dumps and moody - steroid injection - dog full of the joys of spring and bouncing around like a puppy. Sadly the vet said those jabs were only for dogs and simply wouldn't budge on that.
must say, our vets were great and didn't begrudge a penny that we paid them to care for Fleur. Had a lovely letter of sympathy from them when Fleur finally had to put to sleep in my arms
Interestingly, a man (in Birmingham) told me recently that vets are now joining large, national, organisations and, as a consequence, are increasing their charges.
I can confirm that from my own experience, and have just read the same today in the Telegraph, where some commentators have said how they have had to pay literally thousands for a course of treatment for their pets. Pet insurance has also become much more expensive.
We are aware of one veterinary practice not far from us (but further than our existing one) which is still a family-run firm. They get excellent reports online from their customers but, unfortunately, they are 'full up' right now.
Marvellous!!
There's a vet in Sale (think it's called Ashleigh) which says it only deals with cats. Not sure if that means it'll be cheaper or not though?🤷🏻�♂️
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 08, 2023, 11:07:00 AMMarvellous!!
There's a vet in Sale (think it's called Ashleigh) which says it only deals with cats. Not sure if that means it'll be cheaper or not though?🤷🏻�♂️
Yes. A bit further afield than the one I'm thinking about in Northenden.
If we find that our local one continues to charge the Earth, we'll have to make a serious attempt to look around at the competition.
JB, don't forget to try out Kiwi nurseries in Sale. Might be reducing stock now that winter approaches, but still worth a nosey😊
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 08, 2023, 05:33:08 PMJB, don't forget to try out Kiwi nurseries in Sale. Might be reducing stock now that winter approaches, but still worth a nosey😊
Isn't that a garden centre? Do they do cats? 😮
Quote from: JBR on September 08, 2023, 08:25:00 PMIsn't that a garden centre? Do they do cats? 😮
Might sell catmint😬
Today I've had to take our Yorkie to the vets as she's gone off her food over the last few days.
The vet has diagnosed a leaking heart valve & he's taken a blood sample to check her liver, kidney & pancreas function.
We'll be getting the result around 12:30.
The other blood sample is being sent to a lab who will use it to determine the state of her heart.
To say I'm stressed is an understatement.
She's 14 years old & I suppose treatment options will be limited at her age, plus it's all about her quality of life.
Quote from: Diasi on September 15, 2023, 11:56:43 AMToday I've had to take our Yorkie to the vets as she's gone off her food over the last few days.
The vet has diagnosed a leaking heart valve & he's taken a blood sample to check her liver, kidney & pancreas function.
We'll be getting the result around 12:30.
The other blood sample is being sent to a lab who will use it to determine the state of her heart.
To say I'm stressed is an understatement.
She's 14 years old & I suppose treatment options will be limited at her age, plus it's all about her quality of life.
I can understand your feelings. We had similar feelings when our last cat, Poppy, became ill and next to death's door when he had reached 23 years old. Yes, we both cried when he was put down.
I hope that your vet is able to put off that eventual time for a considerable time. Good luck.
Quote from: Diasi on September 15, 2023, 11:56:43 AMToday I've had to take our Yorkie to the vets as she's gone off her food over the last few days.
The vet has diagnosed a leaking heart valve & he's taken a blood sample to check her liver, kidney & pancreas function.
We'll be getting the result around 12:30.
The other blood sample is being sent to a lab who will use it to determine the state of her heart.
To say I'm stressed is an understatement.
She's 14 years old & I suppose treatment options will be limited at her age, plus it's all about her quality of life.
Sorry to hear that and hope it can be sorted out.
Good job it wasn't you. If it was you'd still be on the phone to your GP
I'm so sorry to hear your news, it's bad enough when a pet has to go to the vet but when it's an oldie it's so much worse. Dageus actually needs to go under as his eyes are not draining properly, but because of his age I won't let him. It was bad enough the last time he was put out, so I just keep wiping the gunk away several times a day. I really hope it all goes well.
Am thinking of you at this deeply distressing time.
Have lit a tea light on my desk as a kinda prayer, without wanting to get too spiritual!
Phil
I do hope your little Yorkie comes through OK - such a worrying time
Oh Phil.!! That's a bummer.. My heart goes out to you..
I wish your beloved Yorkie all the very best..
Thanks everyone of you.
The test for her internal organs came back as ok & although her kidneys are within safe limits her urine measurement was higher than it should be so she'll have to have non-prescription renal support medication & renal support food.
We won't know the result of her heart test for about a week.
The vet checked her mouth & he couldn't find any reason for her not eating & there's no health issues that explain it but if she won't eat all the correct food in the world won't solve anything.
In herself she seems fine, she can do 30 minute walks, can run round the garden & she's alert enough.
As I think I've said before, before we got together, the two Yorkies were bought to give the woman I later married, some companionship & focus in her life at that point, so that gives them a special status for me.
Our first Yorkie died in 2020, a few months before my wife, so when eventually our second one passes it will feel like the closing of a chapter for me.
A reprieve indeed. Thank heavens for that.
Precious time now...
So sorry to hear about your little dog Phil, I do hope she starts to eat something soon as that's always a good sign they're feeling a bit better. Hopefully her heart test results will be ok, it's such a worrying time but fingers crossed you've got a few more years with her yet.
Such a special meaning this little dog has for you Phil. Hopefully the vet can help get her appetite back and sort out any other issues. She won't be lacking in TLC.
Oh, Phil - I do feel for you - today it is fifty-five months since I lost little Fleur, my best link to my late Veronica. I do hope your little doggie is OK
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 15, 2023, 09:47:06 PMOh, Phil - I do feel for you - today it is fifty-five months since I lost little Fleur, my best link to my late Veronica. I do hope your little doggie is OK
Thanks Mike, your word 'link' is the best way to describe it.
Since my wife & I didn't have any children between us, our Yorkies & cats were like children to us.
The Yorkies are extra special insomuch as they were with us from the very start.
Anyway, some positive news is that I've found out why our Yorkie stopped eating & seemed to be losing her spark.
She has lost quite a few of her teeth, which the vet said wasn't a problem, & health wise it isn't. However, it did mean that she couldn't pick up her food from her deep doggie bowl so she was wanting to eat but couldn't get the food into her mouth & then gave up trying.
She must have been really frustrated that she couldn't eat her food but neither could she tell me why she couldn't.
So once I realised I now cut up her soft pouch food & put it on very shallow dinner plate so that she can use her tongue to push it into her mouth & she's now eating again & she's got the spark back.
I dread to think what could have happened if I hadn't twigged what the problem was.
Marge and I feel exactly the same love toward our two cats (and the others preceding them), and for the same reason: no children.
We sometimes balk at the prices charged by the vets, but actually they are chicken-feed compared to the cost of children!
Quote from: JBR on September 19, 2023, 11:20:19 AMMarge and I feel exactly the same love toward our two cats (and the others preceding them), and for the same reason: no children.
We sometimes balk at the prices charged by the vets, but actually they are chicken-feed compared to the cost of children!
And there isn't a Petsline for them to phone if they don't get their own way. :grin:
Good news Phil. Yorkies are well known for having problems with their teeth. Both of ours did.
Quote from: klondike on September 19, 2023, 11:44:44 AMGood news Phil. Yorkies are well known for having problems with their teeth. Both of ours did.
Thanks klondike. The vet did say that losing their teeth was better than keeping bad ones, health wise.
Excellent News, hope she has many years ahead. :smiley:
Poor wee thing, she must be in heaven since tou changed her dish! Such a simple remedy, but made all the difference.
Quote from: Diasi on September 19, 2023, 11:12:23 AMThanks Mike, your word 'link' is the best way to describe it.
Since my wife & I didn't have any children between us, our Yorkies & cats were like children to us.
The Yorkies are extra special insomuch as they were with us from the very start.
Anyway, some positive news is that I've found out why our Yorkie stopped eating & seemed to be losing her spark.
She has lost quite a few of her teeth, which the vet said wasn't a problem, & health wise it isn't. However, it did mean that she couldn't pick up her food from her deep doggie bowl so she was wanting to eat but couldn't get the food into her mouth & then gave up trying.
She must have been really frustrated that she couldn't eat her food but neither could she tell me why she couldn't.
So once I realised I now cut up her soft pouch food & put it on very shallow dinner plate so that she can use her tongue to push it into her mouth & she's now eating again & she's got the spark back.
I dread to think what could have happened if I hadn't twigged what the problem was.
Such simple things and of course they can't tell us. My friend Annie had the same problem with one of her Yorks a few years back. They erected a cam to watch the food plates and noticed it's sister York, then started pulling the food from her own dish to the floor, so her sibling could eat! My little one is a 'Biewer' a German originated Yorkie breed, namely a 'Tri-colored' version, but she's a very small (6lbs).
She had a 'hanging' front upper canine about a year ago and stopped eating too. The Vet advised leave her to her own devices and let it drop out, meanwhile to 'hand feed' her with Chicken or Liver strips. A week or so later I found the tooth on the floor. Trouble is she wanted the hand feeding to continue.
I couldn't resist her at first, she's very clever this tiny thing, at playing me for a complete co-operative plonker!
how absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!
Phil = so glad to hear your news
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 19, 2023, 02:25:42 PMhow absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!
Phil = so glad to hear your news
Yes Mike, nowadays almost an appendage. Just likes being with me all day and night! She travels around in a pouched shoulder strap carrier, made courtesy of the local saddler! Very much the midget matriarch, she keeps the other two in order, although Albert reviews her protests with a certain 'Highland Disdain', which is very amusing to watch. Has definite barks for whatever task she expects me, as her Butler to perform. Is intuitive and instinctively knows when I'm unwell, or upset etc. The best of the three as a 'house-dog', her hearing is like 'Jodrell Bank', with huge ears compared to the rest of her, which can rotate a full 180 degrees!
lovely!
Who'd have thought such simple solution ? so glad she's ok now Phil and Cass ! what a little treasure 💕
Once again, thanks for all your good wishes.
The transformation has been quite dramatic, from being sat in her bed, listless, to being first out of the traps & sat in the middle of the kitchen waiting for her food tonight & later coming up for her treats.
I suppose, despite the stress, that fact that she stopped eating got her to the vet two months before her next due checkup & a couple of issues were diagnosed earlier than they otherwise would have been.
Cass, that little pooch is gorgeous!
Thanks Phil, I'm really so glad your little one is now OK. They (Yorks & Biewers) are such tough little creatures that when they're 'offside' they tolerate discomfort with such stoic application that they can kid you into thinking they're OK when in fact they have such small constitutions, the reverse can apply.
I got her from a very eccentric lady breeder. She was German National Puppy outright champion, but grew up too small to breed, or show. So eventually she gratefully accepted my offer to buy her. She is truly tiny, but thankfully not by in-breeding, just the luck of the draw. So she's always been very healthy, apart from her dental loss (es) and my they do pack a lot of teeth for such small dogs!
They get to mean everything I've found as I know you feel towards yours too.
Quote from: Cassandra on September 19, 2023, 10:57:49 PMThanks Phil, I'm really so glad your little one is now OK. They (Yorks & Biewers) are such tough little creatures that when they're 'offside' they tolerate discomfort with such stoic application that they can kid you into thinking they're OK when in fact they have such small constitutions, the reverse can apply.
I got her from a very eccentric lady breeder. She was German National Puppy outright champion, but grew up too small to breed, or show. So eventually she gratefully accepted my offer to buy her. She is truly tiny, but thankfully not by in-breeding, just the luck of the draw. So she's always been very healthy, apart from her dental loss (es) and my they do pack a lot of teeth for such small dogs!
They get to mean everything I've found as I know you feel towards yours too.
They do indeed mean everything, which is why we try to give them the best lives that we can.
Last week's test has shown that her heart is enlarged & she's having an ultrasound scan next Thursday to determine the actual state of it so she's been prescribed medication which I collected yesterday.
The vet informed me, via a phone call, & I could tell he was uncomfortable when discussing treatment options as he asked if I wanted to just have the medication without a scan as the scan would be expensive.
Today is the first day of my new routine for our Yorkie's heart medication. She has to have half a tablet an hour before her meal twice a day & 12 hours apart so I now get up at 05:45 to give her the half tablet then I have a coffee & some cereal & then feed her & the cats at 06:45. I'll do the same in the evening with her half tablet at 17:45 & her & the cats' meals at 18:45.
worrying time Phil - fingers firmly crossed for the little one
Aw bless her, hope all goes well next week.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 22, 2023, 08:24:33 AMworrying time Phil - fingers firmly crossed for the little one
Quote from: Alex on September 22, 2023, 12:08:16 PMAw bless her, hope all goes well next week.
Thanks both of you.
I still think that she's got a degree of dementia because when I feed her she looks as though she's not sure what to do with it & it can sometimes be an hour before she actually eats it.
But in herself she seems happy enough.
So a lot to deal with & it has to be one day at a time.
Phil, she might have had a little stroke? I once had a Spanish mongrel, literally a beach stray pup from Fuengirola, which we 'imported' with 6 months quarantine etc etc. in 1981. Tough as old boots, he lived until at least 17 . He however suffered a small stroke and then had 'steroid' treatment. He recovered after a few months and lived a further two years, when the death of my wife gave him another stroke and we had to say goodbye, the week before she passed.
A friend in the UK with a 10 year old Yorkie had her suffer from exactly the same symptoms as yours - (enlarged heart). She, I remember looked like she wasn't really there at all most of the time. However the treatment that sounds like your regime, restored her back to almost a young dog again, but it took perhaps six months or so I seem to remember. The little critter is still going strong now aged 13. As I said before their tough little creatures, I feel sure she'll be OK, do keep us updated. Meanwhile the best and most sincere regards for you all in your little 'pack', from ours over here.
Quote from: Cassandra on September 22, 2023, 03:09:48 PMPhil, she might have had a little stroke? I once had a Spanish mongrel, literally a beach stray pup from Fuengirola, which we 'imported' with 6 months quarantine etc etc. in 1981. Tough as old boots, he lived until at least 17 . He however suffered a small stroke and then had 'steroid' treatment. He recovered after a few months and lived a further two years, when the death of my wife gave him another stroke and we had to say goodbye, the week before she passed.
A friend in the UK with a 10 year old Yorkie had her suffer from exactly the same symptoms as yours - (enlarged heart). She, I remember looked like she wasn't really there at all most of the time. However the treatment that sounds like your regime, restored her back to almost a young dog again, but it took perhaps six months or so I seem to remember. The little critter is still going strong now aged 13. As I said before their tough little creatures, I feel sure she'll be OK, do keep us updated. Meanwhile the best and most sincere regards for you all in your little 'pack', from ours over here.
Thanks Cassandra, I do tend to be a worrier & probably an over-thinker & your post has given me some well needed positivity.
I'll suggest the possibilty of a small stroke to our vet.
I post about it on the forum as I have no one at home with who to discuss it so our best wishes to you & your pack too.
I hope you get some positive news. I can imagine its hard when there's no one to share with at home.
Quote from: GrannyMac on September 22, 2023, 06:48:01 PMI hope you get some positive news. I can imagine its hard when there's no one to share with at home.
Thanks GM.
I think most people benefit from having a second opinion on things & what I find the hardest is not having the instant input from my wife when situations occur.
Thinking of you at this continuing difficult time Diasi.
One thing that did raise my eyebrow was that your vet said the scan would be expensive. Surely that's only if (s)he decides to charge so much??🤷🏻�♂️
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 23, 2023, 09:00:41 AMThinking of you at this continuing difficult time Diasi.
One thing that did raise my eyebrow was that your vet said the scan would be expensive. Surely that's only if (s)he decides to charge so much??🤷🏻�♂️
Thanks dextrous.
I think in the past the vets have done procedures without quoting the cost & the clients have been unable to pay as there are notices saying that all costs have to be paid on collection of the animal.
It must be difficult for someone who can't pay & has to go without tests or treatment for their pet.
I can only imagine the guilt I'd feel if that ever happened to me.
Well our Yorkie is back to how she was a couple of weeks ago before she suddenly stopped eating.
I've come to the conclusion that she probably lost one of the few remaining teeth which caused eating to be painful as she returned to normal just as quickly as she went downhill.
She's now eating her meals but we've changed her diet from the kibbles to soft food which we still put on a plate instead of her bowl.
Why the vet didn't check this as a cause is a mystery, however, the fact that he went down the blood test route did flag up her heart problem, for which she now has tablets, & the recommendation for her to have renal support food & supplements.
That is good to hear.. Teeth can cause many problems..
I am so pleased for you..
Quote from: Scrumpy on September 27, 2023, 09:19:02 AMThat is good to hear.. Teeth can cause many problems..
I am so pleased for you..
Thanks, she has a heart scan tomorrow to check exactly what's what.
so glad she is improving, Phil
So glad that she (and let's face it, you too Phil) is having a better quality of life now.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 27, 2023, 09:26:51 AMso glad she is improving, Phil
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 27, 2023, 09:32:48 AMSo glad that she (and let's face it, you too Phil) is having a better quality of life now.
Thanks both of you.
It certainly has improved how I am feeling.
So glad to hear your pal is back to her old self Phil, :upvote:
Quote from: Alex on September 27, 2023, 10:16:28 AMSo glad to hear your pal is back to her old self Phil, :upvote:
:upvote:
Good news Phil, scan over at least treatment ca be determined going forward.
M
She's had her echo cardiogram today & her heart isn't very good & it's having to work harder than it should so the vet thinks we're looking at a case of months with her.
Quote from: Diasi on September 28, 2023, 11:07:24 AMShe's had her echo cardiogram today & her heart isn't very good & it's having to work harder than it should so the vet thinks we're looking at a case of months with her.
Oh dear Phil, my commiserations. I've had the same news a few times, with my little friends of all sorts over the years. Sad times, I'm sure you'll make the most of your time together. No matter how sad parting is, their wonderful memories and devotion, eventually surpass the sorrow of parting ...
M
Phil I'm so sorry to read this about your little one. Been there myself too and it's heartbreaking, for you more so with the connection to your wife. Don't know what else to say really, but as the majority of us are animal lovers, just know we're all here for you.
Then again, you never know, she may surprise everyone - including the vet !
Aww!!! .... Bless her..
Quote from: Cassandra on September 28, 2023, 01:31:52 PMOh dear Phil, my commiserations. I've had the same news a few times, with my little friends of all sorts over the years. Sad times, I'm sure you'll make the most of your time together. No matter how sad parting is, their wonderful memories and devotion, eventually surpass the sorrow of parting ...
M
Quote from: Alex on September 28, 2023, 02:07:42 PMPhil I'm so sorry to read this about your little one. Been there myself too and it's heartbreaking, for you more so with the connection to your wife. Don't know what else to say really, but as the majority of us are animal lovers, just know we're all here for you.
Then again, you never know, she may surprise everyone - including the vet !
Quote from: Scrumpy on September 28, 2023, 05:31:21 PMAww!!! .... Bless her..
Thanks.
I'm the sort of person who can cope with knowing so I can now carry on giving her the best life that I'm able to do, right to the end.
oh.Phil - I am so sorry. I know you will make her remaining time the very best that it can be for you both
Deepest best wishes for both of you. Other words, at times, seem a bit irrelevant imho. Others can express it all better than me.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on September 28, 2023, 06:24:04 PMoh.Phil - I am so sorry. I know you will make her remaining time the very best that it can be for you both
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 29, 2023, 08:58:53 AMDeepest best wishes for both of you. Other words, at times, seem a bit irrelevant imho. Others can express it all better than me.
Thanks both of you, just being able to talk about it on the forum is a big help in itself.
Although (my) words are irrelevant 😬🤭) I just want to say that at least you know that just about everyone on here is able to empathise with you to an extent.
Quote from: dextrous63 on September 29, 2023, 09:13:02 AMAlthough (my) words are irrelevant 😬🤭) I just want to say that at least you know that just about everyone on here is able to empathise with you to an extent.
And that is really appreciated.
We are here for you.. anytime...