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Title: Sunak
Post by: Alex on July 13, 2023, 12:58:36 PM
This man has the most boring voice in politics.  He sounds like a vicar giving his Sunday morning sermon.  I hate his spindly legs and why does he wear those drainpipe Keck's which only emphasise his legs ?  He's got lovely teeth  :grin:

Halve inflation, Grow the economy, reduce debt, cut waiting lists, stop the boats.... Not turning out too well is it Rish ?
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Jacqueline on July 13, 2023, 01:02:42 PM
Horrible little slimy worm.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: dextrous63 on July 13, 2023, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: Jacqueline on July 13, 2023, 01:02:42 PMHorrible little slimy worm.
Well, at least he's good at that😊
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on July 13, 2023, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 13, 2023, 12:58:36 PMHe's got lovely teeth
Maybe he uses the same dentist as crabby?  :grin:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Scrumpy on July 13, 2023, 04:20:35 PM
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Cassandra on July 24, 2023, 02:39:14 PM
Close your eyes and just listen to his voice, its so similar to Blair. He resembles a paraplegic spider in his skinny little kecks. I feel ashamed of him, an unwanted, unelected, conspiratorial political condom.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Alex on July 24, 2023, 02:47:32 PM
I feel ashamed of him too, particularly when he takes his place amongst world statesmen !  He looks like Max Wall fgs  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on July 24, 2023, 02:51:14 PM
Hmmmm

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Comic_%26_actor_Max_Wall.jpg)

I'll grant you close  :grin:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: 1955vintage on July 24, 2023, 03:34:17 PM
Max Wall Funny Walk 1970s on Make a GIF (https://makeagif.com/gif/max-wall-funny-walk-1970s-TtyqfV?origin=category&source=funny-gifs&order=new&page=274&position=23)

He needs to mqster the walk.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Cassandra on July 24, 2023, 03:36:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJdl3i67S7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJdl3i67S7w)
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Raven on July 24, 2023, 04:57:03 PM
Max Wall, The guy who invented leggings.  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Michael Rolls on July 24, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
might even be better as PM! (apart from the wretched May woman, who could be worse?)
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: GrannyMac on July 24, 2023, 06:30:43 PM
Quote from: Cassandra on July 24, 2023, 02:39:14 PMClose your eyes and just listen to his voice, its so similar to Blair. He resembles a paraplegic spider in his skinny little kecks. I feel ashamed of him, an unwanted, unelected, conspiratorial political condom.
Whyvdon't you say what you really think! 😁😁
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on July 24, 2023, 06:34:57 PM
It really is quite a disgrace that we get a PM who wasn't even voted for by the reduced electorate of just Conservative Party members. When they decided Truss had to go the honourable thing would have been to go to the country rather than shoehorn Sunak in.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Diasi on July 24, 2023, 08:00:29 PM
Quote from: klondike on July 24, 2023, 06:34:57 PMIt really is quite a disgrace that we get a PM who wasn't even voted for by the reduced electorate of just Conservative Party members. When they decided Truss had to go the honourable thing would have been to go to the country rather than shoehorn Sunak in.
Exactly, it was a re-run of the way Brexit voters were dismissed as too thick to be trusted with a vote & the main reason I quit the Party.

Some financial experts are now saying that Truss's budget was quite good.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: JBR on July 24, 2023, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: Michael Rolls on July 24, 2023, 05:31:09 PMmight even be better as PM! (apart from the wretched May woman, who could be worse?)
I agree.
In my view, there hasn't been a decent PM since Maggie, in either main party.

The worst of the Tories, as far as I'm concerned, was Treason May.  Almost as bad as BLiar, and never to be trusted again, and I find it annoying that she's still in the Commons.  Who are the idiots who are still electing her?
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Diasi on July 24, 2023, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: JBR on July 24, 2023, 08:45:31 PMI agree.
In my view, there hasn't been a decent PM since Maggie, in either main party.

The worst of the Tories, as far as I'm concerned, was Treason May.  Almost as bad as BLiar, and never to be trusted again, and I find it annoying that she's still in the Commons.  Who are the idiots who are still electing her?
Still in the commons & doing her best to undermine her replacements.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: JBR on July 24, 2023, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: Diasi on July 24, 2023, 08:47:44 PMStill in the commons & doing her best to undermine her replacements.
It seems that her constituency is Maidenhead, and I can only assume that the people there still seem to trust her.
Funny people, these Southerners.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Alex on August 01, 2023, 08:32:17 AM
Is fishy Rishi growing a pair ?  He's authorised 100 new North Sea licences - allegedly.  Mind you when Labour gets in next year they'll cancel them and he probably knows that  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on August 01, 2023, 08:44:09 AM
Can they just cancel them without penalty? A granted licence implies that there will be investment based on that licence.

I see the carbon capture as just a means of sinking billions down the toilet and not billions of tons of CO2.

Still no fracking either.

I heard a comment that this will cost them votes. I wonder what the balance actually is between greens and sceptics. Right now it could be the greens have it as the bills haven't really started coming in yet - just a taster and that has been blamed on Russia.
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Alex on August 01, 2023, 09:08:23 AM
Penalty ? That won't bother Labour,they throw money around don't they ?
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: JBR on August 01, 2023, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Alex on August 01, 2023, 08:32:17 AMIs fishy Rishi growing a pair ?  He's authorised 100 new North Sea licences - allegedly.  Mind you when Labour gets in next year they'll cancel them and he probably knows that  :rolleyes:
Another fine example of our 'two-party politics'.

Two political parties with clearly opposing views on just about everything effectively taking it in turn to run the country (into the ground).  Whatever one government does, the next undoes it and does the opposite.
And on and on and on it goes.
No wonder the country's had it.

One reason why I would like us to try a new party, better than the 'two main parties'.

Alternatively, ditch 'first past the post' and let us experience 'proportional representation'.
Could it be any worse?
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 01, 2023, 12:15:05 PM
well, when you look at the countries that use PR, I reckon the answer, in one of our daughter's favourite phrases, is 'maybe yes, maybe no'
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on August 01, 2023, 12:49:25 PM
The PR proposed by the Lib Dems which we had a referendum on was Single Transferrable vote. As all Labour supporters would specify LibDem as recipient and so would all Tory voters I just saw it as a mechanism to keep LibDems in government as coalition members so I voted against it. Fortunately so did most people. A list system with candidates elected in proportion to percentage of votes cast has to be fairest.  10% of votes you get 10% elected 
Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: JBR on August 01, 2023, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: klondike on August 01, 2023, 12:49:25 PMThe PR proposed by the Lib Dems which we had a referendum on was Single Transferrable vote. As all Labour supporters would specify LibDem as recipient and so would all Tory voters I just saw it as a mechanism to keep LibDems in government as coalition members so I voted against it. Fortunately so did most people. A list system with candidates elected in proportion to percentage of votes cast has to be fairest.  10% of votes you get 10% elected
That is certainly a system I'd vote for (given the chance), and seems a preferred option.
However, which applicants would be selected to occupy the 10% (or whatever) of seats assigned?  Presumably, those individuals who received the highest number of votes.  But then, which constituencies would they be sent to represent?
I'm not sure how exactly it would work.

A happy Yorkshire Day to all fellow Yorkies, and also to those who wish they were!

August 01, 2023, 02:16:28 PM
I wonder how many have heard about Sunak's brilliant new idea.

news.sky.com/story/tax-on-wines-and-spirits-increases-from-today-but-some-good-news-if-youre-going-to-the-pub-for-a-pint-12931539

I can only assume that he's trying his best not to get re-elected next year!


Title: Re: Sunak
Post by: klondike on August 01, 2023, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: JBR on August 01, 2023, 02:06:52 PMPresumably, those individuals who received the highest number of votes. 
You don't vote for individuals in a party list ballot you vote for a party. Each party who will be fielding candidates prepare a list of those candidates in their own priority order and you vote for a party. Typically the ballot covers several seats over a wider area than current constituencies.

A criticism of this is that it means you are not voting for an individual and it is less local. I'd argue that most vote for a party rather than a specific candidate anyway. It does pretty much exclude independents but do any of those get to be MPs anyway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_representation