I picked this up from a news article , the buggers are laughing at us.

"I am extremely happy," Krishna Kumar, an Indian IT worker, told AFP in the capital New Delhi.
"Great Britain is a country which ruled India for more than 300 years - now a person of Indian origin is going to rule UK."

Quote from: Jacqueline on October 25, 2022, 12:59:31 PMI picked this up from a news article , the buggers are laughing at us.

"I am extremely happy," Krishna Kumar, an Indian IT worker, told AFP in the capital New Delhi.
"Great Britain is a country which ruled India for more than 300 years - now a person of Indian origin is going to rule UK."

Not really any answer to that is there.

Quote from: Jacqueline on October 25, 2022, 12:59:31 PMI picked this up from a news article , the buggers are laughing at us.

"I am extremely happy," Krishna Kumar, an Indian IT worker, told AFP in the capital New Delhi.
"Great Britain is a country which ruled India for more than 300 years - now a person of Indian origin is going to rule UK."

So long as Sunak can give to the UK what we gave to India.

October 25, 2022, 02:10:39 PM

Quote from: Alex on October 24, 2022, 07:46:16 PMDear Lord, but I guess if you've got £730,000,000 you wouldn't be too bothered.

Unless the State froze it & allowed you have a 100 quid a week, if you behaved well.

October 25, 2022, 02:13:43 PM

Quote from: klondike on October 24, 2022, 09:15:38 PMHere is Breitbart's take on fishy Rishi.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/

It's a long old article and to prove I read it here is the very last paragraph. Worth a read if you enjoy a weepy.

No political party has ever won five elections in a row in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and if the Tories can manage the feat with a man who could not even win over his own party members and has nothing to offer a country hurtling towards an energy crisis and a deep recession but tax rises and spending cuts, it will be nothing short of a miracle.

not even win over his own party members, who many are now & ex-Party members.

I'll wait and see.  My OH is keen on the Reform party, he's a fan of Farage, and I have to agree with some of what he says.  But we've got what we've got for the forseeable.

Let's give him a chance now.. He might come good..

Quote from: GrannyMac on October 25, 2022, 05:50:30 PMI'll wait and see.  My OH is keen on the Reform party, he's a fan of Farage, and I have to agree with some of what he says.  But we've got what we've got for the forseeable.

Well, we've got what we've got for the foreseeable two years!
I'd love to see the Reform party given a chance to run the country.  In my opinion they are the most able of all that are on offer.  Many people won't vote for them simply because they have never been in office, but what else is on offer?
Sunak might, just might, manage to restore the Conservative party to what it was over ten years ago, but that's a big thing to achieve in less than two years.  If they continue to fall out amongst themselves and remain a split blue/green/yellow party, I imagine that more and more Tory voters will continue to float across to Reform UK, especially if Nigel Farage gets more involved.
I already have.

There are plenty on the right that won't vote for them because they fear that doing so may let in Starmer and his merry band.

What do they fear Starmer and his merry band will do that is so bad? Well surely you must know that they'll tax entrepreneurs to to point they'll go elsewhere. They'll have open doors immigration. They'll promise the earth yet deliver a broken economy that provides the disadvantaged with less.

What will the Conservatives do. They will offer stability and continuity.

Now the question is just what has over a decade of Conservative government brought us. Do I really need to repeat all that stuff I put in the fears of what Labour would do section?

IMO fear of labour is a busted flush. The bloody Tories have delivered all that stuff already and are promising more of the same.

Time for a radical change. It could be worse but I honestly doubt it would be.

Yes of course I fear the damage that Labour would do to the country, and to me personally.
The problem is that unless the Conservatives should, by some miracle, come up with some convincing reasons why I should vote for them next time, I shall certainly not vote for them.

So, I shall not vote Conservative, and shall certainly not vote Labour.
My choice is to either not vote at all, spoil my ballot paper, or vote for Reform.

As I said there is essentially no difference between them now. A high tax virtually open borders Tory party offers no reason to collect any votes. The great shame is a high tax virtually open borders Labour party will probably hoover up many of those votes.

Quote from: JBR on October 25, 2022, 07:32:54 PMWell, we've got what we've got for the foreseeable two years!
I'd love to see the Reform party given a chance to run the country.  In my opinion they are the most able of all that are on offer.  Many people won't vote for them simply because they have never been in office, but what else is on offer?
Sunak might, just might, manage to restore the Conservative party to what it was over ten years ago, but that's a big thing to achieve in less than two years.  If they continue to fall out amongst themselves and remain a split blue/green/yellow party, I imagine that more and more Tory voters will continue to float across to Reform UK, especially if Nigel Farage gets more involved.
I already have.

On a personal level I've voted Tory not on the basis of what they'll, but on the basis of what Labour could do.

At the time that Labour scrapped the adult dependent allowance part of the State Pension, they were seriously considering scrapping the Pension Credit & making the entire State Pension means-tested, so those of us with a private pension would get a State Pension based on what our private pension was.

Quote from: Diasi on October 26, 2022, 12:46:09 AMOn a personal level I've voted Tory not on the basis of what they'll, but on the basis of what Labour could do.

At the time that Labour scrapped the adult dependent allowance part of the State Pension, they were seriously considering scrapping the Pension Credit & making the entire State Pension means-tested, so those of us with a private pension would get a State Pension based on what our private pension was.

I, too, have a private pension.  Certainly not an enormous amount, and I really need my state pension as well especially as I have paid for it by working and paying taxes and N.I. throughout my working life.

This is a typical left-wing attitude of the Labour party.  Let the working people work and pay for a private pension and let's reward the non-working people for claiming benefits throughout their life and never having contributed toward the NHS and other benefits.

No, Labour aren't that bad - they're worse!

If Suella plays her cards right, she could bring back a lot of disillusioned Tory voters.

can but hope - they will be needed

Quote from: Alex on October 26, 2022, 03:44:33 PMIf Suella plays her cards right, she could bring back a lot of disillusioned Tory voters.

Not a chance, we left because A: we dislike Sunak & B: because of the way in the Party members were sidelined to get him as PM.

Braverman wouldn't have been voted in as Tory leader by the Party members.

It seems that Reform have picked up several thousand new members over the last few days.