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Rees-Mogg Calls on Sunak to Offer Jobs to Farage, Reform UK Leaders to Save Conservative Party

In a hail mary attempt to save the Conservative Party from electoral devastation, Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has called on Rishi Sunak to offer Nigel Farage and top Reform UK figures the chance to become Tory MPs and potentially members of the government in an election pact.

Rees-Mogg, the former Business Secretary and Brexit campaigner pitched a rerun of 2019, in which Nigel Farage's Brexit Party (now Reform UK) partnered with Boris Johnson's Conservatives to "Get Brexit Done" by stepping aside in key constituencies to ensure a large majority against the Labour Party.

Yet to sweeten the pot this time around, Sir Jacob has argued that Reform UK leader Richard Tice, his deputy Ben Habib, and honorary president Nigel Farage should be allowed to stand for the Conservatives and for Farage to be given assurances of a cabinet post.

"With the help of Nigel Farage in a Conservative government, as a Conservative minister, with Boris Johnson probably returning as foreign secretary and welcoming the likes of Ben Habib and Richard Tice into our party, as well as pursuing genuinely conservative policies, winning the next election suddenly becomes within reach," Rees-Mogg said on Tuesday.

In a mock negotiation held on GB News, Mr Farage and Sir Jacob largely agreed on the changes needed within the Tory party, namely getting control of mass migration. The two agreed to such an extent that Farage said that they should be in the same party.

However, the Brexit boss told the former Business Minister that he underestimates "the level of contempt that is felt for the Conservative Party" in the country, with many people who previously voted Tory feeling betrayed by the record waves of immigration allowed into the country following the UK's withdrawal from the European Union.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/05/16/rees-mogg-calls-on-sunak-to-offer-jobs-to-farage-reform-uk-leaders-to-save-conservative-party/

It's good to see that at least one Tory MP can see the catastrophe coming and understands that a move to the right completely trumps a move to the left and is essential to satisfy the Tory faithful and most past Tory voters.

Of course this idea is never going to happen. Most of the Tories despise Farage. Farage would never be persuaded to join anyway as he recognises that the Tories are not just poorly but terminal.

Does poor Nigel have an unfortunate gurning habit or do the press only release unflattering pictures of him the way police mugshots would make Mother Theresa appear to be a homicidal maniac?

JBR

I have always respected Mogg, but I cannot agree with his opinion here.

The Conservatives are sinking, deservedly, and I am sure are still infested by undercover Liberals.
If anything, Reform should invite any present Conservative MPs, who they can be assured are truly Conservative, to leave that party and join Reform, hopefully bringing with them their honest voters.

The Conservative party has made itself now unelectable in my view.  Reform is the natural centre-right wing replacement, if only more people could recognise that before it is too late.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

Raven

Change doesn't come easy to most people though.  :rolleyes:

klondike

Unfortunaterly Reform is unelectable too. They don't have the active membership machinery, donors etc. that can put them into a winning position in elections. Tory MPs may as well stay where they are if they want to keep their jobs because they stand more chance standing as Conservatives than they do defecting to Reform.

What Rees-Mogg wants is reform of the Tory party. The grass roots are doubtless behind him but the Parliamentary party is now beyond redemption. My hope is for a total wipeout. Let the grass roots see that the brand has sunk lower than Ratners. That way there is an outside chance of either a reformed Tory party or maybe just Reform, Either way expect Socialism for the rest of your days now I fear.

Ashy

The tory hierarchy is so wet you need a boat to visit CCHQ. 

Alex

Nigel is about to leave these shores for a job in the US, Trump beckons  :grin:

Scrumpy

Good old Nigel.. Makes the news wherever he goes..
But, I never quite get where he's going..
Don't ask me.. I know nuffink..

JBR

Quote from: klondike on Yesterday at 10:31:52 AMUnfortunaterly Reform is unelectable too. They don't have the active membership machinery, donors etc. that can put them into a winning position in elections. Tory MPs may as well stay where they are if they want to keep their jobs because they stand more chance standing as Conservatives than they do defecting to Reform.

What Rees-Mogg wants is reform of the Tory party. The grass roots are doubtless behind him but the Parliamentary party is now beyond redemption. My hope is for a total wipeout. Let the grass roots see that the brand has sunk lower than Ratners. That way there is an outside chance of either a reformed Tory party or maybe just Reform, Either way expect Socialism for the rest of your days now I fear.
Perhaps so, but Reform is the only party my conscience will allow me to vote for.

It is logical to assume that if a clear majority of people do vote for Reform, they will form the next government.
The only problem, as I see it, is the mass of people who can only consider the 'two main parties'.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

klondike

Quote from: JBR on Today at 09:11:15 AMThe only problem, as I see it, is the mass of people who can only consider the 'two main parties'.
It is the main problem for sure but there are a lot of people who for some reason seem to love open borders. It doubtless gives them a nice warm glow inside to be so inclusive. They probably love all the LGBTIQA+ stuff too. Reform only has issues with foisting gender identify BS on children but that is probably enough to queer the pitch with the liberal lefties.

I had to look up LGBTIQA+. I'd missed out some letters. There are some that are longer still but I stuck at that one. Lord only knows what stuff I'll get shown in the Ali mailshot after that search :grin:

JBR

Quote from: klondike on Today at 09:28:18 AMIt is the main problem for sure but there are a lot of people who for some reason seem to love open borders. It doubtless gives them a nice warm glow inside to be so inclusive. They probably love all the LGBQT+ stuff too. Reform only has issues with foisting gender identify BS on children but that is probably enough to queer the pitch with the liberal lefties.
Yes, of course.  The consequence is that those same people will eventually come to realise their mistake.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

Diasi

Quote from: klondike on Yesterday at 09:54:29 AMRees-Mogg Calls on Sunak to Offer Jobs to Farage, Reform UK Leaders to Save Conservative Party

In a hail mary attempt to save the Conservative Party from electoral devastation, Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has called on Rishi Sunak to offer Nigel Farage and top Reform UK figures the chance to become Tory MPs and potentially members of the government in an election pact.

Rees-Mogg, the former Business Secretary and Brexit campaigner pitched a rerun of 2019, in which Nigel Farage's Brexit Party (now Reform UK) partnered with Boris Johnson's Conservatives to "Get Brexit Done" by stepping aside in key constituencies to ensure a large majority against the Labour Party.

Yet to sweeten the pot this time around, Sir Jacob has argued that Reform UK leader Richard Tice, his deputy Ben Habib, and honorary president Nigel Farage should be allowed to stand for the Conservatives and for Farage to be given assurances of a cabinet post.

"With the help of Nigel Farage in a Conservative government, as a Conservative minister, with Boris Johnson probably returning as foreign secretary and welcoming the likes of Ben Habib and Richard Tice into our party, as well as pursuing genuinely conservative policies, winning the next election suddenly becomes within reach," Rees-Mogg said on Tuesday.

In a mock negotiation held on GB News, Mr Farage and Sir Jacob largely agreed on the changes needed within the Tory party, namely getting control of mass migration. The two agreed to such an extent that Farage said that they should be in the same party.

However, the Brexit boss told the former Business Minister that he underestimates "the level of contempt that is felt for the Conservative Party" in the country, with many people who previously voted Tory feeling betrayed by the record waves of immigration allowed into the country following the UK's withdrawal from the European Union.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/05/16/rees-mogg-calls-on-sunak-to-offer-jobs-to-farage-reform-uk-leaders-to-save-conservative-party/

It's good to see that at least one Tory MP can see the catastrophe coming and understands that a move to the right completely trumps a move to the left and is essential to satisfy the Tory faithful and most past Tory voters.

Of course this idea is never going to happen. Most of the Tories despise Farage. Farage would never be persuaded to join anyway as he recognises that the Tories are not just poorly but terminal.

Does poor Nigel have an unfortunate gurning habit or do the press only release unflattering pictures of him the way police mugshots would make Mother Theresa appear to be a homicidal maniac?
If you play any video clip in ultra slo-mo it's amazing the number of facial expressions in just a few seconds.

Jacob Rees-Mogg has mastered the art of keeping a fixed facial expression that vastly reduces the chances of such split-second images being found.

I regard Jacob Rees-Mogg as the Tory equivalent of Labour's Frank Field.

Far too intelligent & far-sighted to ever have their ideas acted upon.

I also realise that my Reform vote will be nothing more than a sop to my conscience.
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