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Title: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: JBR on April 10, 2024, 11:40:00 AM
It appears that Oxford council are planning to increase charges (parking charges for one) on owners of SUVs, presumably because their heavier weight is damaging surfaces.

They will probably include EVs into the 'bargain' as well, as they too are very much heavier than most ICEs.  I think that, if that bright idea expands into other local authorities, the recent loss of interest in EVs may well escalate.  Almost certainly it will when the government decides to include 'road tax' charges on their owners as well.
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Post by: Alex on April 10, 2024, 11:42:39 AM
Good for Oxford council  :upvote:
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Post by: Ashy on April 10, 2024, 01:19:43 PM
In Oxford's case it's probably another round in their ongoing war on motoring. More likely to be idealistic than anything practical like road surface wear.
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Post by: klondike on April 10, 2024, 03:13:49 PM
I seriously doubt that they would penalise EVs. That would be off message.
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Post by: muddy on April 11, 2024, 07:54:28 AM
I have an SUV but it's nothing like the monsters around now .
They are too big and wide .
Parking spaces are too small .
These huge Mercedes and Porsche Cayennes  are rediculous .
Even small cars are getting too wide.
A mini is no longer a mini.
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: Michael Rolls on April 13, 2024, 09:38:03 AM
my Mondeo is longer than many of the parking spaces around here and if I park in the middle of a space and someone does the same in the adjoining space I can't fully open my door, and squeezing out of a half open door is bad for my back. A hybrid, it is also 4 cwts heavier than its petrol predecessor.
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Post by: klondike on April 13, 2024, 09:43:24 AM
Parking space design was set way back when cars were smaller. If you'd picked a classic Ford Anglia you'd have no problems parking. I avoid shops with difficult parking. All the new build Lidl stores I've used have had sensible space sizes and safe layouts that don't encourage speeding in the access roads.
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Post by: Michael Rolls on April 13, 2024, 09:45:37 AM
there was a classic car rally - probably at Glamis- last year and I saw several pre-war cars on the road. How on earth did two full size adults fit into the front seats of an Austin 7?
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: klondike on April 13, 2024, 10:23:47 AM
Full sized adults weren't the same size as they are now. Have you ever looked at old military uniforms in museums? They really are small. You'd be forgiven for initially thinking they must be a drummer boys. There was still food rationing in the fifties and I suspect poor nourishment for quite a while longer.

None of this then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOC9d17vASc
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Post by: muddy on April 13, 2024, 12:32:11 PM
In short we are a nation of fat barswards .
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Post by: Cassandra on April 13, 2024, 01:58:56 PM
Quote from: JBR on April 10, 2024, 11:40:00 AMIt appears that Oxford council are planning to increase charges (parking charges for one) on owners of SUVs, presumably because their heavier weight is damaging surfaces.

They will probably include EVs into the 'bargain' as well, as they too are very much heavier than most ICEs.  I think that, if that bright idea expands into other local authorities, the recent loss of interest in EVs may well escalate.  Almost certainly it will when the government decides to include 'road tax' charges on their owners as well.

Oxford - Lib/Dem (and those posing as) nutter HQ. All these 'schemes' are growing towards their eventual aim of everyone using rollers-skates and bikes with your registration number worn on a tabard. Land yachts, tacking up the M6, replace trucks, until their all dug up and converted to canals with sail boats. Home heating c/o Peat suppliers who also sell synthetic candles. The army of 1,000 are armed with Bows & Arrows. Planes and cars etc are only used by the 'Council Commissariat'.
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: JBR on April 13, 2024, 04:38:04 PM
I think our area (Cheadle and Gatley) may also become Limp Dem at the next election.
Tories are now personae non grata, and people here never vote for Labour.
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: Alex on April 13, 2024, 08:14:18 PM
How very posh JBR  :smiley:
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Post by: JBR on April 13, 2024, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 13, 2024, 08:14:18 PMHow very posh JBR  :smiley:
It's a decent enough area, but I wouldn't call it 'posh'.

Bramhall, up the road, is posh!
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: Alex on April 13, 2024, 10:30:57 PM
 Not as posh as Alderley Edge of course but I thought Gatley was posh.  Cheadle is nice, some decent charity shops there  :smiley:
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Post by: GrannyMac on April 14, 2024, 06:32:39 AM
When I get the train from Stockport to my son's, it passes through Cheadle Hume.  Is that the same as Cheadle?  

There are some really nice small towns and villages in that part of the world, son works in Knutsford, I love the black and white timbered houses.
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Post by: JBR on April 14, 2024, 11:04:24 AM
Quote from: Alex on April 13, 2024, 10:30:57 PMNot as posh as Alderley Edge of course but I thought Gatley was posh.  Cheadle is nice, some decent charity shops there  :smiley:
Yes, Alderley Edge is very posh, and that really is just up the A34 past Wilmslow.
Such places, of course, are only within the financial reach of footballers!

April 14, 2024, 11:12:15 AM
Quote from: GrannyMac on April 14, 2024, 06:32:39 AMWhen I get the train from Stockport to my son's, it passes through Cheadle Hume.  Is that the same as Cheadle? 

There are some really nice small towns and villages in that part of the world, son works in Knutsford, I love the black and white timbered houses.
I'd say that Cheadle Hulme (pronounced 'hyoom'!) is pretty similar to Cheadle and Gatley, though I wouldn't venture much to the north and arrive at Cheadle Heath.

Yes, Knutsford is a nice place, but directly on the Manchester Airport flightpath!  Depends which way they're taking off and of course which way the wind's blowing!
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Post by: GrannyMac on April 14, 2024, 11:28:19 AM
They don't live in Knutsford.  Lots of nice little towns and villages to choose from!
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Post by: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 01:53:45 PM
I had a client in 'Prestbury' in the 80's. Stunning village I seem to remember ...
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Post by: JBR on April 14, 2024, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 01:53:45 PMI had a client in 'Prestbury' in the 80's. Stunning village I seem to remember ...
Although not a million miles away, I have never been there.  Looks a pretty village.  We might call in and explore a pub!
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Post by: GrannyMac on April 14, 2024, 04:39:28 PM
There's a member on the MS with connections to the area whose username is prestbury. 

I've gone through on the train. It looks lovely Cass.
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Post by: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
My client was the late 'Lord' Tim Hudson, who owned nearby 'Old Birtles Hall' complete with it's very own and beautiful Cricket field. Tim loved the game, it was his passion and his matches and dinners became very well known. He spent a fortune on both the Hall & the ground.

Particularly, we used to have lunch at the 'Legh Arms' (in the previous picture). This was all of 40 years ago now, but it was a magnificent Inn to visit. Within we discussed his various ongoing courtroom manoeuvres. I used to address him as 'The Prince of Protesters', because he was always in dispute with not only his neighbours, but particularly 'Lancashire County Cricket Club'; whom he tried to 'buy out' many times.

Great fun, if he didn't live next door to you, I would imagine?
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: JBR on April 14, 2024, 05:23:43 PM
Lancashire?  Good heavens!  Aiming a little low!  🤣

Yorkshire CCC is, of course, the best and (I think) may still feature in the Guinness Book of World Records as the best county cricket club in the country, going by its performance in county championships.
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: JBR on April 14, 2024, 03:11:58 PMAlthough not a million miles away, I have never been there.  Looks a pretty village.  We might call in and explore a pub!

As I've mentioned to GM, The Legh Arms is superb, but so was 'The Admiral Rodney' which was 'Robinsons' Flag Ship pub (on New Street). My neighbour now with me here (US) and I spent many happy hours there too, back when he was playing fo England , Lancs and 'Lord Tim's X1. Being a Cheshire purist he loves Robinsons.

Either were/are well worth a visit in this charming place.
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Post by: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: JBR on April 14, 2024, 05:23:43 PMLancashire?  Good heavens!  Aiming a little low!  🤣

Yorkshire CCC is, of course, the best and (I think) may still feature in the Guinness Book of World Records as the best county cricket club in the country, going by its performance in county championships.

Bearing in mind I was coached by a genial Yorkshireman who opened the batting for Essex for 16 years (Gordon Barker) aka 'The Master' and my all time hero's are Trueman, Boycott and Len Hutton, I shan't argue. Yorkshire was 60 years ago besotted by some of the most picturesque and well kempt grounds in England. I've been fortunate enough to either play, or Umpire on many of them too! Sadly the County Club, that produced so many great players over the years has been subjected to racial attacks in recent times. I wish they'd have been stronger in resisting these 'circumlocutory' accusations. Fortunately the main advocate against them has now been shown to be unreliable in some of his revelations (sic). He and his gambling debts have now departed to his homeland Pakistan ...
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: GrannyMac on April 14, 2024, 06:32:39 AMWhen I get the train from Stockport to my son's, it passes through Cheadle Hume.  Is that the same as Cheadle? 

There are some really nice small towns and villages in that part of the world, son works in Knutsford, I love the black and white timbered houses.

GM, my 'neighbour' here assures me they are two separate locations with Cheadle, village being closer to Gatley. Cheadle Hulme is more of a suburb a region for commuters to both Manchester and Stockport and is several miles south

Both pleasant locations (or were) he says, prior to 'invasion'.
Title: Re: Outrageous SUVs
Post by: JBR on April 14, 2024, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 06:04:20 PMBearing in mind I was coached by a genial Yorkshireman who opened the batting for Essex for 16 years (Gordon Barker) aka 'The Master' and my all time hero's are Trueman, Boycott and Len Hutton, I shan't argue. Yorkshire was 60 years ago besotted by some of the most picturesque and well kempt grounds in England. I've been fortunate enough to either play, or Umpire on many of them too! Sadly the County Club, that produced so many great players over the years has been subjected to racial attacks in recent times. I wish they'd have been stronger in resisting these 'circumlocutory' accusations. Fortunately the main advocate against them has now been shown to be unreliable in some of his revelations (sic). He and his gambling debts have now departed to his homeland Pakistan ...
Sad, but only one of the recent problems we now suffer in this country.

April 14, 2024, 07:12:48 PM
Quote from: Cassandra on April 14, 2024, 06:21:05 PMGM, my 'neighbour' here assures me they are two separate locations with Cheadle, village being closer to Gatley. Cheadle Hulme is more of a suburb a region for commuters to both Manchester and Stockport and is several miles south

Both pleasant locations (or were) he says, prior to 'invasion'.
We're actually in Gatley, though sometimes refer to it as Cheadle as the two are conjoined.  Both are still, thankfully, quite civilised places despite the 'changes' happening to our country, mostly in built-up city areas of course.
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Post by: Alex on April 14, 2024, 09:15:41 PM
Lovely photo of Prestbury, don't think I've ever been there.
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Post by: GrannyMac on April 18, 2024, 05:27:04 PM
Cass, I recognise Beefy in your photo.  He was quite a character, well known in Doncaster where we first lived after moving South. 

And with regard to invasion, I can't speak for all Cheshire, but Cheshire East, with the possible exception of Crewe is still fairly mono cultural.
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Post by: Michael Rolls on April 18, 2024, 05:34:21 PM
Lord IT and Sir GB. The nasty little man who caused so much difficulty for YCC beema to have been shown up as a wiley oriental gentleman
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Post by: Cassandra on April 18, 2024, 05:56:44 PM
Quote from: GrannyMac on April 18, 2024, 05:27:04 PMCass, I recognise Beefy in your photo.  He was quite a character, well known in Doncaster where we first lived after moving South. 

And with regard to invasion, I can't speak for all Cheshire, but Cheshire East, with the possible exception of Crewe is still fairly mono cultural.

I met Beefy and Viv Richards as well as Joel Garner when all three appeared for Lord Tim's guest X1 one Sunday when we attended. My late wife Chris found the topless drinks waitresses a bit over the top however. (excuse the pun). We later made good friends with all three who are as great a company as human beings as they were at Cricket. I'm glad I lived through these times (mid 80's) they were both colourful, full of liberty and hope.
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Post by: 1955vintage on April 18, 2024, 06:51:31 PM
Tom Moody's older brother came over from WA to play with us at Purley. He was invited to play at one of Tim Hudson's matches. He came back raving about the facilities and the hospitality. 

Bloody good cricketer.