The people of Rochdale have voted in George Galloway .
They have the candidate they deserve .
He's what is known as a chancer. From my hometown. 🙄
Quote from: GrannyMac on March 01, 2024, 07:17:40 AMHe's what is known as a chancer. From my hometown. 🙄
Well Rochdale certainly didn't deserve any of the other candidates.
If George Galloway could be cloned he'd take a lot of seats in the North.
He'd have my vote.
Why ?
Quote from: muddy on March 01, 2024, 08:44:46 AMWhy ?
Why what?
Please ask a specific question & I'll answer it.
George Galloway's victory speech was an absolute cracker as he can tell it as it is without fear of losing his own whip.
Lol. :grin:
I have no doubt that the Westminster weasels are already working on some trumped-up reason for getting him chucked out of Parliament as soon as possible.
However, I doubt that any of them are clever enough to be able to do it as Galloway is street-wise smart & that always outbids academic smartness.
Video: George Galloway pretends to be a cat in cringeworthy CBB episode | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbizbigbrother/video-2196054/Video-George-Galloway-pretends-cat-cringeworthy-CBB-episode.html)
Sums him up.
Quote from: 1955vintage on March 01, 2024, 09:40:19 AMVideo: George Galloway pretends to be a cat in cringeworthy CBB episode | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbizbigbrother/video-2196054/Video-George-Galloway-pretends-cat-cringeworthy-CBB-episode.html)
Sums him up.
You do realise that CBB is deliberately scripted & produced for morons to think that it's real.
I do think the £thousands he got for going along with it was the reason he took part.
I was more interested in the independent who came second. Seemed he is a well known local businessman who campaigned on local issues.
https://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/news/01032024-david-tully-who-is-the-surprise-dark-horse-of-the-rochdale-by-election/
Gorgeous George had a stonking win.
Reform are probably disappointed with their poor result. I've no idea how good or bad their candidate was. The margin for losing a deposit is 5% so at least they didn't have that humiliation.
Workers Party George Galloway 12,335 39.7 N/A
Independent David Tully 6,638 21.3 N/A
Conservative Paul Ellison 3,731 12.0 Decrease 19.2
Labour Azhar Ali 2,402 7.7 Decrease 43.9
Liberal Democrats Iain Donaldson 2,164 7.0 Steady
Reform UK Simon Danczuk 1,968 6.3 Decrease 1.9
Independent William Howarth 523 1.7 N/A
Independent Mark Coleman 455 1.5 N/A
Green Guy Otten 436 1.4 Decrease 0.7
Independent Michael Howarth 246 0.8 N/A
Monster Raving Loony Ravin Rodent Subortna 209 0.7 N/A
Majority 5,697
Turnout 31,107 39.7 Decrease 20.4
Low turnout
So the election of an MP in the north of England has been decided by a war over two thousand miles away ! He even said "this is for Gaza" in his speech. We now know how the muslim vote can change UK politics.
This is a story on the Lee Anderson affair. I read it on my phone in bed putting off dragging my sorry self out of my pit.
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/02/29/lee-andersons-critics-are-not-being-honest-about-sadiq-khans-failure-to-condemn-the-antisemitism-flooding-londons-streets/
This bit in it caught my eye. It's about Khan but the same will surely apply in the next General election
To more easily stay in power, Candidate Khan does want and need the Muslim vote: as of the 2021 census, Greater London is now 15% Muslim, with 1,318,755 such inhabitants residing in the capital in a wonderfully diverse and vibrant fashion. Various U.K. Muslim groups now openly boast of their collective bloc-voting power. But while traditionally overwhelmingly more likely to vote for Labour than for any other British political party (unless George Galloway and his magic hat are in town), the number of Muslims showing support for Labour has recently been dropping significantly, due to the Shadow Cabinet's vacillating failure to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
The next vote to decide who will become London Mayor comes as soon as May 2nd; undoubtedly, therefore, Khan will not wish to alienate the substantial local Muslim and Leftist voter-base at the moment by doing anything so ridiculous as defending Israel or condemning all those pesky hate-marches. In January and February, Survation carried out a poll for the Labour Muslim Network, finding that 85% of British Muslims said the specific position of political parties on the Israel-Hamas conflict would help decide the destination of their vote, i.e., they won't vote for those who explicitly support the Israelis.
I'm unsure exactly what difference this will make but I am sure that the composition of our next Parliament will be impacted by a conflict 3,000 miles away that is outside of our control and frankly none of our business.
Ri dic ul ous.
Quote from: klondike on March 01, 2024, 10:29:40 AMThis is a story on the Lee Anderson affair. I read it on my phone in bed putting off dragging my sorry self out of my pit.
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/02/29/lee-andersons-critics-are-not-being-honest-about-sadiq-khans-failure-to-condemn-the-antisemitism-flooding-londons-streets/
I'm unsure exactly what difference this will make but I am sure that the composition of our next Parliament will be impacted by a conflict 3,000 miles away that is outside of our control and frankly none of our business.
I had heard of, but never really taken any notice of the 'Daily Sceptic'. I shall make an effort to follow its publications in future. They seem both down to earth and also mildly amusing!
More importantly, what you say about the composition of our next Parliament being influenced by something which is really nothing to do with us is very telling. Clearly, the thousands, apparently mainly white British, in Londonistan with their red, white and green flags waving as they parade about telling us to kill all Jews is a demonstration of how easily-led our supposedly adult voters are likely to influence our future this year.
The really sad thing is that those who do vote for people who appear to be a real threat to our country and our freedom are too stupid to work out the eventual consequences for us all, including themselves of course.
Quote from: JBR on March 01, 2024, 03:45:46 PMI had heard of, but never really taken any notice of the 'Daily Sceptic'. I shall make an effort to follow its publications in future.
Politics is unusual for them. Many articles are on net zero and vaccine harms. It started life as lockdownsceptics.
Quote from: JBR on March 01, 2024, 03:45:46 PMI had heard of, but never really taken any notice of the 'Daily Sceptic'. I shall make an effort to follow its publications in future. They seem both down to earth and also mildly amusing!
More importantly, what you say about the composition of our next Parliament being influenced by something which is really nothing to do with us is very telling. Clearly, the thousands, apparently mainly white British, in Londonistan with their red, white and green flags waving as they parade about telling us to kill all Jews is a demonstration of how easily-led our supposedly adult voters are likely to influence our future this year.
The really sad thing is that those who do vote for people who appear to be a real threat to our country and our freedom are too stupid to work out the eventual consequences for us all, including themselves of course.
Well said JBR.
Seconded 👏
He doesn't debate with Israelis
https://twitter.com/i/status/1763523974082838791
He's also going after TalkRadio/TV
@georgegalloway
I have referred broadcast comments by Kevin O'Sullivan on
@TalkTV to my lawyers with a view to beginning libel proceedings immediately
3:18 PM · Mar 1, 2024
Although it's nothing to do with us personally or even as a country of today, the British government of the day did influence the League of Nations to promote Zionism. When the Zionists and arabs turned on the British in 1946 'we' left them to it. I doubt if the immediate post war government had the resources to do anything else.
Quote from: Alex on March 01, 2024, 05:21:54 PMHe doesn't debate with Israelis
https://twitter.com/i/status/1763523974082838791
He's also going after TalkRadio/TV
@georgegalloway
I have referred broadcast comments by Kevin O'Sullivan on
@TalkTV to my lawyers with a view to beginning libel proceedings immediately
3:18 PM · Mar 1, 2024
I'm very sure that the Israelis have no interest in debating with him.
In fact I'm sure that also applies to all thinking people in this country.
George Galloway
A hate monger who has licked ,not only saucers of milk but the @.........s of any murderous dictator going .
Quote from: JBR on March 01, 2024, 03:45:46 PMThe really sad thing is that those who do vote for people who appear to be a real threat to our country and our freedom are too stupid to work out the eventual consequences for us all, including themselves of course.
Unfortunately
'THOSE that do vote for the people who appear to be a real threat to our country and freedom are too stupid to work out the consequences for us all'
are the people who are threat to our country.. And not stupid at all.. It has worked out just as they planned..
Quote from: Scrumpy on March 02, 2024, 10:50:07 AMUnfortunately
'THOSE that do vote for the people who appear to be a real threat to our country and freedom are too stupid to work out the consequences for us all'
are the people who are threat to our country.. And not stupid at all.. It has worked out just as they planned..
Of course, the ones who are behind these 'marches' and who encourage them are the dangerous ones who want to change our country into a colony of the Middle-East.
The ones with the flags, parading and chanting, are the easily-led fools who are too stupid to understand what they are doing.
I'm not keen on George Galloway but he's certainly got Sunak and Starmer rattled, and that IMO, is not a bad thing. :busted:
Quote from: Scrumpy on March 02, 2024, 10:50:07 AMUnfortunately
'THOSE that do vote for the people who appear to be a real threat to our country and freedom are too stupid to work out the consequences for us all'
are the people who are threat to our country.. And not stupid at all.. It has worked out just as they planned..
Wasn't that said about those of us who voted for Brexit?
We were insulted & told we were too thick, racist etc & shouldn't have been allowed to vote.
The voters of Rochdale are now being subject to the same appalling insults.
I certainly have no time for people who can't accept the result a democratic vote.
I'd accept the result if I felt it was genuinely democratic. Nigel doesn't seem to think so. Postal votes were over 40%.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1872818/nigel-farage-george-galloway-rochdale-postal-voting
Too late to tackle the problem of postal votes before the next election. Labour might if they get in and think they are now a detriment to them rather than an assistance.
I have a postal vote as we used to be away from home for a lot of the year in the static caravan. I'm not certain exactlt where my nearest polling station is now as the old library where it used to be was sold off but the chances are it will be within a couple of hundred yards.
I, too, have used a postal vote every since it became available.
Unfortunately, now it has become easily abused, it should be removed apart from certain people, as discussed.
Of course, I'd have to take a ten minute walk there (and ten back) to post my vote. However, I think that would have far more benefit to this country than my 'inconvenience'.
The important thing is to help avoid illegal support for 'certain religious' political organisations.
I have a postal vote - got it, as did Veronica, when her disability worsened. To get to the polling station (no parking available) would have entailed pushing her in a wheelchair for a mile, then a mile back - great if it happened to be raining. I still retain the postal vote because even without a wheelchair to push, I can no longer walk a mile, never mind two
You clearly have a legitimate claim on a postal vote. I don't anymore and would have no gripe if things were tightened up.
Obviously we don't want large ampounts of council workers time being spent on eligibility but I'd say they could make a start by limiting them to blue badge holders, students who should be strictly limited to either their home town or university town, members of the armed services and probably pensioners. Many pensioners such as me don't need one but an automatic grant would reduce the worlkoad of assessing claims from anybody not in the automatic grant groups.
Quote from: klondike on March 03, 2024, 03:58:37 PMYou clearly have a legitimate claim on a postal vote. I don't anymore and would have no gripe if things were tightened up.
Obviously we don't want large ampounts of council workers time being spent on eligibility but I'd say they could make a start by limiting them to blue badge holders, students who should be strictly limited to either their home town or university town, members of the armed services and probably pensioners. Many pensioners such as me don't need one but an automatic grant would reduce the worlkoad of assessing claims from anybody not in the automatic grant groups.
They should indeed, and your final list would work in the majority of cases of suspected illegal vote-controlling.
The vast majority of votes must be done in person and, at the polling station, in supervised privacy to avoid any controlling by 'dictating partners' (not of any specific race, of course!).
He will be sworn in this afternoon at 2.30pm, but he was at Parliament first thing ! :grin: Apparently he needs to be flanked by 2 MPs during the swearing in ceremony, these will be the longest-serving MP Conservative Sir Peter Bottomley and surprise surprise Jeremy Corbyn. :smiley:
Quote from: GrannyMac on March 03, 2024, 08:17:51 AMI'd accept the result if I felt it was genuinely democratic. Nigel doesn't seem to think so. Postal votes were over 40%.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1872818/nigel-farage-george-galloway-rochdale-postal-voting
It matters not if 100% of the votes were postal.
Postal voting is part of the voting system & was brought in by Labour.
Do you agree with postal voting as it stands today Phil ?
Quote from: Alex on March 04, 2024, 01:12:40 PMDo you agree with postal voting as it stands today Phil ?
I didn't agree when Labour introduced it, as a right for everyone, in 2001, but most of Labour's seats had strong Asian communities which is why they did it, in my opinion.
If voter fraud has got George Galloway elected then the voting where every Labour MP in an Asian community was elected should be checked.
There's a lot of fuss about him but without the press stirring things up what one bloke does is pretty irrelevant.
March 04, 2024, 01:23:21 PMQuote from: Diasi on March 04, 2024, 01:19:04 PMmost of Labour's seats had strong Asian communities which is why they did it, in my opinion.
And why I suggested the other day that when they form the next government they'll give it a close look if it seems to have harmed their chances next time around.
Quote from: Diasi on March 04, 2024, 01:19:04 PMI didn't agree when Labour introduced it, as a right for everyone, in 2001, but most of Labour's seats had strong Asian communities which is why they did it, in my opinion.
If voter fraud has got George Galloway elected then the voting where every Labour MP in an Asian community was elected should be checked.
No surprise that Labour brought in postal voting. They may be corrupt, but they're not stupid!
Ever since Brown, they have been desperate to get back in power and, thanks to stupid voters, probably will be this year.
I find it very sad that only a minority of people (at least that's what the press assures us) will vote for the only political party which might manage to reverse the problems we have accrued since 1990.
Sadly, it will not occur to most British people that we had a chance, but chose not to take it, until it is too late!
When they find George is all hot air he will be out .
Quote from: JBR on March 04, 2024, 01:31:02 PMI find it very sad that only a minority of people (at least that's what the press assures us) will vote for the only political party which might manage to reverse the problems we have accrued since 1990.
Sadly, it will not occur to most British people that we had a chance, but chose not to take it, until it is too late!
Well, as I've said on many occasions, I'm an actual paying member of the Reform Party, not just a supporter, so they'll be getting my vote if we have a Reform candidate in our constituency.
However, I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get a single seat so in reality all I'm doing is voting for the right to say "Well I told you so!"
But on the flip side other people will probably say to me "Your vote for Reform has given us a Labour Government!".
Quote from: Diasi on March 05, 2024, 06:07:51 PMWell, as I've said on many occasions, I'm an actual paying member of the Reform Party, not just a supporter, so they'll be getting my vote if we have a Reform candidate in our constituency.
However, I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get a single seat so in reality all I'm doing is voting for the right to say "Well I told you so!"
But on the flip side other people will probably say to me "Your vote for Reform has given us a Labour Government!".
That, of course, is simply a ruse by the Conservatives, who Reform would logically replace, to try to persuade people not to vote for Labour.
We must be aware that most British people who do vote for Labour are either rather lacking in the intelligence stakes or muslim (or both).
With the current polling it's true to say vote Conservative get Labour.
Quote from: klondike on March 05, 2024, 09:14:46 PMWith the current polling it's true to say vote Conservative get Labour.
Actually, vote Conservative, get Liberals.
Whatever you vote you'll get a Labour government.
Certainly will round here.
I reckon less than 100 of the 630 will send back a Tory. Unless the muslim stuff continues but that isn't likely to let a Tory in.
Quote from: klondike on March 06, 2024, 03:34:50 PMWhatever you vote you'll get a Labour government.
I look forward to it with interest.
In four or five years, I wonder what everyone who voted for them will be saying.
They say that we live and learn. Well, some of us do.
Quote from: JBR on March 06, 2024, 06:52:44 PMI look forward to it with interest.
In four or five years, I wonder what everyone who voted for them will be saying.
They say that we live and learn. Well, some of us do.
At 80 in June I may not find out.
Quote from: Diasi on March 08, 2024, 07:53:03 PMAt 80 in June I may not find out.
At 72 I may decide to throw my chips in, if we get a Labour government.
Of course, I still live in hope of a Reform government!
I'm not far behind Diasi. How many more governments will we see? 🙄
Hopefully more than Galloway
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