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Title: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Scrumpy on April 02, 2022, 10:49:29 AM
... silly Andrew..
You've only gone and done it again.. You shouldn't have put yourself up the front at Westminster Abbey on Tuesday..
I know it's your dad and all that but you should keep a low profile until all the dust settles..
But no.. you had to be seen as a Mummy's boy.. all caring and loving...
The plot didn't work.. We are not idiots..
The press are digging the dirt on you again..  Something about 750 thousand to help pay for your daughter's wedding.. From a kind (donor) :wink:
I can't wait to see where you stand on the Platinum Jubilee.. But, somehow I don't think you will be the arm bearer..
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: klondike on April 02, 2022, 10:55:28 AM
He really should just slink away from the public eye.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Diasi on April 02, 2022, 11:21:28 AM
Quote from: Scrumpy on April 02, 2022, 10:49:29 AM
... silly Andrew..
You've only gone and done it again.. You shouldn't have put yourself up the front at Westminster Abbey on Tuesday..
I know it's your dad and all that but you should keep a low profile until all the dust settles..
But no.. you had to be seen as a Mummy's boy.. all caring and loving...
The plot didn't work.. We are not idiots..
The press are digging the dirt on you again..  Something about 750 thousand to help pay for your daughter's wedding.. From a kind (donor) :wink:
I can't wait to see where you stand on the Platinum Jubilee.. But, somehow I don't think you will be the arm bearer..
He's implicated in a massive money laundering fraud.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Scrumpy on April 02, 2022, 11:59:33 AM



Oh dear.!!!     I think he will creep away somewhere.. Switzerland probably..
They will welcome anyone with a few bob.. and he will have a few bob when his mother has gone..
He will have plenty of wealthy 'friends' out there to chat to...
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Alex on April 02, 2022, 12:18:49 PM
I wouldn't mind retiring to Switzerland if I had his money and I had family with me
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: klondike on April 02, 2022, 01:17:27 PM
Plenty make it their final resting place.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Cassandra on April 02, 2022, 03:07:53 PM
Guilty without trial, on unproven evidence via an American originated Civil Law Suit that just happened to coincide with his 96 year old Grandmother's platinum jubilee. Such events unfortunately are overwhelmingly present in the unbalanced litigious system of Stateside legislation. This was his father's memorial service per se. His mother, the Queen wanted his arm to lean on. As far as I can remember this woman has never asked for much ...
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: zoony on April 02, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
Well said sir..
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Scrumpy on April 02, 2022, 03:53:22 PM
Hi Cassandra..
He was certainly guilty of something as far as the underage sex was concerned.. One doesn't pay millions for something they never had.


I hope you are keeping well... and the snow is melting fast..


Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Raven on April 02, 2022, 04:27:53 PM
I heard he and Fergie were to remarry I'm glad I like herself, she's full of fun and from what I saw she's a nice lass altogether, just a bit too good at making the wrong decision at times.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Cassandra on April 02, 2022, 06:58:34 PM
Evening Scrumpy, we did not have much more than 5" where we are, so beauty without inconvenience. I was like a child, much to the amusement of the locals. The 'toboggan' however was brilliant!

My stance to this opinion is factually based thus:

When does the rumour of 'under age sex' allegation in this case become irrefutable fact. None as represented to date. All are heresay, no matter how exponentially their 'believers' abound and are therefore, inadmissible contention to a court of law.

By formally rejecting the case for Federal prosecution, the US Dept Justice accepted that prime fascia evidence was all such and therefore would not have stood rational cross examination.

By mounting a private (civil case) the law firm representing the claimant Virginia Giuffre thereafter reverted justice to a secondary consideration. Its prime regard was solely how much money they could extract from an appellant who would not coerce in a law suit, by 'settling' out of court.

In Andrew Windsor they had a ripe target. Aware of his mothers age, status and recent bereavement, they considered he'd be unlikely to subject her to the horcrux of a trial. Also remember it costs a fortune to contest here and bearing that in mind my advice to him would to have been to progress exactly as he did - his first loss was his smallest. He I can assure you, was diametrically opposed to accepting this path and wanted to defend fiercely.

Sadly and increasingly in this world we have now developed 'herd decision' to be the norm. Anyone who rationally opposes the wave is quickly rounded upon as 'unclean' and banished from further consideration in anything for all time thereon unless they conform. You are 'anti' by merely suggesting a reasoned alternative may exist?

Imagine a legal system where your future was judged not by evidential justice and reasoned argument but by how many  :upvote: or  :downvote: you got on Facebook.

This dangerous social diversion mimics the hysterics culminating in the lynchings of over 100 unfortunate women in under two years by Mathew Hopkins 'The Witchfinder General' in the early 17th century!

The unbelievable decision to decline discipline upon any of the 47 officers in the South Yorkshire constabulary who allowed 100's of proven under age crimes to be continuously committed on young girls over a period of 16 years seems to have attracted little attention from the socially directed mob - why?

One could draw the inference therefore that unfortunate girls from Council Estates in Rotheram being defiled by Asian originated men ere subsidiary in contrast to a greedy, precocious young woman from Florida engorged by an ambulance chasing law firm.

Open your ears; for which of you will stop the vent of hearing when loud Rumour speaks?
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Diasi on April 02, 2022, 08:46:17 PM
There are quite few UK prison inmates that have been convicted on no more than circumstantial evidence.

Just as there are those serving a life sentence for murder when no body has ever been found & again no more than circumstantial evidence & hearsay.

My view is formed by the fact that Andrew denies ever meeting this girl who he has his arm round & who he showed out of the door of his paedophile mate's London flat.

I consider the victim getting damages does nothing to diminsh what she alleges to have happened to her.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: zoony on April 02, 2022, 09:15:24 PM
And there we have it viewers. The stances of Prosecution and Defence. Who Do YOU Believe??


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Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: 1955vintage on April 03, 2022, 08:07:44 AM
If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. If Andrew is innocent of all charges, I am sure there are plenty more he is guilty of.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Scrumpy on April 03, 2022, 09:54:16 AM



He is a proven liar...
He was a great friend of Jeffrey Epstein and his side kick.. He even invited them 'Home'..
We are associated with the company we keep.. Epstein was a known/convicted paedophile ... Knowing this they were still friends..
Photographs prove that he knew the underage girl..
The law is an ass if they can not see this evidence in front of them..
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Diasi on April 03, 2022, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: Scrumpy on April 03, 2022, 09:54:16 AM

He is a proven liar...
He was a great friend of Jeffrey Epstein and his side kick.. He even invited them 'Home'..
We are associated with the company we keep.. Epstein was a known/convicted paedophile ... Knowing this they were still friends..
Photographs prove that he knew the underage girl..
The law is an ass if they can not see this evidence in front of them.

What disturbs me most is the flagrant victim-shaming of the victim in this affair.

So what if she made a few quid, she could see Andrew walking away Scot-free if she didn't take a civil action against him.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Scrumpy on April 03, 2022, 10:46:38 AM



So she made a couple of bob by naming names ..!!
Andrew makes a few bob himself by using the same tactic..
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: klondike on April 03, 2022, 11:01:28 AM
If criminal prosecution was rejected it was because they thought the evidence wasn't strong enough to convict beyond reasonable doubt (assuming our colonial cousins criminal law is similar to ours). Barristers make a bloody fortune instilling a little doubt into the prosecution case. There is a big difference between having a photo taken standing with a young girl and getting snapped on the job. In any event she was 17 at the time which does not constitute paedophilia here.

I have little doubt that her version of events is probably true but that's it little doubt not zero doubt. With a clever barrister, and sure as hell he can afford a very clever barrister, that is a probable aquittal as only a few jury members need to have doubts.

So a civil suit was taken and he, probably wisely, settled without it going to trial which given the prior coverage could never have been very fair anyway. Did he get off light? Was he harshly treated? In my view neither. He should just slip away out of any limelight now for the sake of the monarchy he is part of.
Title: Re: Oh Dear !!
Post by: Raven on April 03, 2022, 12:22:00 PM
Well at least he can't be blamed for the latest money he paid back, though some will. :waiting: It was the fault of some Turkish Moneybag's advisor. Andrew just paid the money right back to stop anymore bad mouthing. :check:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60967996