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Title: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 26, 2023, 09:21:08 AM
Isla Bryson has been sent to HMP Corton Vale in Stirling to await sentencing. 'Her' crime? Rape. Two counts of rape. Isla Bryson was formerly Adam Graham and is a transgender woman described in the report as 'male bodied'. So, this is happening even without Sturgeon's mad gender reassignment bill coming into force. Madness!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Sheila on January 26, 2023, 09:39:40 AM
As Julia Hartley-Brewer said this morning 'a woman can't rape another woman.  He is a man'.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 26, 2023, 09:39:59 AM
There should be a required procedure for transgendered males prior to them entering a female prison. I'd prefer bricks and a scalpel but would settle for just a scalpel being involved in it.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Jacqueline on January 26, 2023, 10:50:50 AM
Why do they even give this bloke the time of day? he is a male rapist, I wouldn't even acknowledge his new name, if he is "male bodied" he is still Adam Graham, a man.  He should go to a male prison, and maybe if there is justice see how rape feels if one of the other inmates has a go.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Scrumpy on January 26, 2023, 12:27:54 PM

He didn't feel 'safe' in a male prison.. 
 The idiots are running the asylum...
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Jacqueline on January 26, 2023, 01:08:08 PM
Why should he feel safe? he didn't give a damn about the safety of his rape victims, he is just a coward who changed to a woman as he knows what will happen to him in a men's jail. 
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 26, 2023, 02:52:00 PM
There's a chance it might in a women's jail too. Perhaps he'll get a free op.....


Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Raven on January 26, 2023, 03:01:58 PM
Actually the women held in Cornton Vale are no angels, I don't doubt they would give this person the lesson of his life if they got a hold of him. :nooo:  :wink:  :1040:


January 26, 2023, 03:08:33 PM
They have changed their minds, it's to be another prison.

BBC News - Transgender rapist Isla Bryson to be moved from women's prison
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64413242
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: JBR on January 26, 2023, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Raven on January 26, 2023, 03:01:58 PMActually the women held in Cornton Vale are no angels, I don't doubt they would give this person the lesson of his life if they got a hold of him. :nooo:  :wink:  :1040:


January 26, 2023, 03:08:33 PM
They have changed their minds, it's to be another prison.

BBC News - Transgender rapist Isla Bryson to be moved from women's prison
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64413242
Hopefully, a male prison.
He'll no doubt get all the raping he wants in there!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Scrumpy on January 26, 2023, 06:13:18 PM
They will probably find him a comfortable room in a *****star hotel..  With bodyguards to protect him..
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 26, 2023, 06:38:56 PM
some sense. hopefully
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2023, 06:52:16 PM
Still got all his bits !!


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Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Jacqueline on January 26, 2023, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 26, 2023, 06:52:16 PMStill got all his bits !!


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Bloody freek!!!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 26, 2023, 08:42:05 PM
exactly
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: GrannyMac on January 27, 2023, 07:13:23 AM
Looks like wearing a pink jacket hasn't worked.  Male prison it is, rightly so!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/26/trans-woman-isla-bryson-found-guilty-rape-not-be-held-in-womens-prison-sturgeon
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 27, 2023, 09:35:42 AM
and so it should be - it was a disgrace to even think of sending a man to a woman's prison, never mind doing it
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 27, 2023, 11:23:05 AM

This says there are 40 but it will possibly be stopping. I didn't know there were any I thought it was some new Scottish BS

Transgender inmates in women's prisons to face new government restrictions
Only 40 transgender inmates, most of whom identify as male, are held in women's prisons


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trans-prisoners-women-jails-government-b2200573.html

How can commonsense be subverted by a tiny vocal minority when a majority can't inject some into the tossers who aren't stopping the dinghy boys.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 27, 2023, 08:14:47 PM
it's totally, utterly idiotic. I hadn't realised that there were already such instances - no, it's more than idiotic - it's disgraceful
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Post by: Raven on January 27, 2023, 10:47:00 PM
Soooo, Are they going to build Trans Only Prisons? There will be more in the future I'm sure. I know in this case the Trans is a rapist but most Trans are just looking for acceptance and a quiet life. They will never bother anybody.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 28, 2023, 03:09:08 AM
it's not the trans themselves that bother me - it's way that various levels and areas of officialdom pander to a tiny, tiny minority to the detriment of many - usually women. Not sure of the exact position, but there is talk of trans 'women' = OK weird men - being allowed to play in women's Rugby. There was an interesting article in the paper the other day pointing out the enormous advantage 'weird men' enjoy over genuine women in athletics regardless of testosterones levels- and here again they may be allowed in. Disgraceful!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 28, 2023, 08:11:54 AM
Once a male has gone through puberty there are irreversible changes to the body which improve strength and endurance. Reducing testosterone levels, which those sports which allow them to compete against females usually require, does not revert them to female norms.

IMO sport should only permit athletes to compete against others of the same birth sex.

The trans swimmer who was mediocre in the male sport has regularly been trashing female records. This should simply not be allowed.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 28, 2023, 09:10:08 AM
I checked and was pleased to find that in England, Wales and now Scotland, rugby union bodies will not allow transgender 'women' to compete in female events, I just hope that they stick to their guns - apparently they are already getting hysterical flack.
It really is idiotic. Many years ago I was a keen cyclist and rode a few time trails, quickly discovering that I was pretty useless - but had I been allowed to compete against women, only the late, great Beryl Burton could have  beaten me, and she was exceptional - a World Champion and head and shoulders above her contemporaries. I was faster than any other woman in the UK.
Mike
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on January 28, 2023, 11:14:31 AM
There are no figures for trans people in UK (apparently) but it's estimated by Government Equalities Office that there are between 200,000 and 500,000.   So few have caused such madness !
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: morty on January 28, 2023, 04:58:37 PM
I believe there is another row brewing .... makes you sick doesn't it.

https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-trans-prisoner-row-as-girls-stalker-approved-for-move-to-womens-jail-12797405 (https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-trans-prisoner-row-as-girls-stalker-approved-for-move-to-womens-jail-12797405)

It is now understood prison chiefs have in recent weeks approved the move of Tiffany Scott, who stalked a 13-year-old girl while known as Andrew Burns.
It is believed Scott will switch from a male wing to an all-female unit.


Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 28, 2023, 10:20:28 PM
idiotic and disgraceful
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 29, 2023, 07:20:33 AM
I see that Sturgeon is now claiming that anyone who disagrees with her over her wretched bill is transphobic and/or racist. Also the man's wife has stated what we all assumed - that his transition is a sham to hopefully have an easier time in a woman's prison
Mike
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: morty on January 29, 2023, 05:04:12 PM
It looks like moving transgender prisoners from one jail to another has been put on hold whilst they do a review.

Sturgeon does seem to be getting herself into a mess over this.
I alwasy had her down as a bit of a spitfire who knew her own mind and was pretty level headed, (apart from her obsession with Scottish Independence).

Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 29, 2023, 05:43:21 PM
don't know about level headed - to my mind she is pig-headed
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: morty on January 29, 2023, 05:44:45 PM
She does seem to be over this transgender issue.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 29, 2023, 05:45:39 PM
very much so
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Raven on January 29, 2023, 06:18:51 PM
I don't understand this transgender bill at all. I can't get my head around what she's trying to achieve.  :worried:
As I've said before, I know a couple of transgenders and all they want is a quiet life and peace to get on with it.  :shh:
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 29, 2023, 08:07:53 PM
I've seen bits and pieces of polling that suggest that the young were broadly in agreement with her bill and it's mostly the older generations that have issues with it. She is probably aiming to please the younger voters.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 30, 2023, 03:59:17 AM
well, that would figure - she wants to give the vote to 16 year olds in all elections, not just Scottish were she has already done it.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 30, 2023, 09:09:24 AM
Are you sure it was not 16 month olds?
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 30, 2023, 09:57:40 AM
she's probably working on it!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Jacqueline on January 30, 2023, 10:45:47 AM
Why have these two sex offender blokes changed their surnames? I can understand if you want to pretend to be a woman you would change your christian name to a female one, but why change your surname?  in the case of a sexual predator they might think it's more difficult to check up on  previous crimes if you have an entirely different name. 
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on January 30, 2023, 10:47:48 AM
sounds logical
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on January 30, 2023, 04:17:49 PM
Sturgeon has tied herself in knots over this trans fiasco.  How could any biological woman (or her husband) vote for her now  ?
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on January 30, 2023, 04:48:15 PM
I guarantee that they still will....
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Scrumpy on January 30, 2023, 06:54:39 PM
Just been watching Sturgeon on the news.. She's getting a bit muddled with her replies .. and she 'ain't happy..
 I am beginning to look closer at the females on tv.. especially those with deeper voices.. Is she a 'he' or is 'he' a 'she'... !!!!! 
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on February 01, 2023, 05:54:23 PM
or even a 'them'?
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Jacqueline on February 01, 2023, 10:14:04 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on January 30, 2023, 06:54:39 PMJust been watching Sturgeon on the news.. She's getting a bit muddled with her replies .. and she 'ain't happy..
 I am beginning to look closer at the females on tv.. especially those with deeper voices.. Is she a 'he' or is 'he' a 'she'... !!!!!
Maybe after all this she isn't too sure what she is!!!
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Michael Rolls on February 02, 2023, 03:56:35 AM
I know what she is - a right pain
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on February 02, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
Where is her husband I wonder  ?   :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Raven on February 02, 2023, 02:20:22 PM
He's with Herself but in the background.
Peter Tierney Murrell (born 8 December 1964) is the current chief executive officer of the Scottish National Party.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on February 03, 2023, 07:50:28 PM
I saw a photo of Nicola on holiday with a woman, it was no doubt just Twatter gossip.  Following rumours it's a marriage of convenience and Nicola prefers woman.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Raven on February 03, 2023, 09:17:30 PM
I have been on holiday with a girlfriend before, doesn't mean I prefer women to men. But, it doesn't matter what she does, there will always be nasty muck rakers spreading bile.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: klondike on February 04, 2023, 08:15:38 AM
Wonder what her pronouns are.  :shocked:
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Scrumpy on February 04, 2023, 05:43:08 PM
I have been on holiday with mates before.. Sometimes six at a time.. all women.  And I've just cropped my hair..  :grin:
 But I am woman.. all woman .. I don't go out without my lippy on.. and hoop earrings.. 
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Alex on February 04, 2023, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 03, 2023, 09:17:30 PMI have been on holiday with a girlfriend before, doesn't mean I prefer women to men. But, it doesn't matter what she does, there will always be nasty muck rakers spreading bile.

So have I, many times - but then I'm not in the public eye.  The way she has not protected women in Scotland just adds fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: It's started!
Post by: Scrumpy on February 04, 2023, 07:45:48 PM
I don't think she is very feminine..  :busted:
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Post by: Alex on February 04, 2023, 08:58:03 PM
Someone sent me a rude picture joke about Sturgeon, it might be too x rated for on here though :grin: