What a carry on..
The Labour party must be rubbing their hands in glee at the cock ups the government have made over the last few months.. and whether you like it or not, there certainly have been some..
'Bring Boris back' !! Why.. !!! Why on earth would we do THAT. !!
He got it wrong.. and the public were angry and disappointed with him..
Truss was going to change it all and get us through to next election.. She will be gone within two weeks.. IMO.
They all leave with a nice pension and opportunities to make thousands by 'Speaking' to those who will listen..
Meanwhile the poorer people of this country can expect very little..
We are told lies.. we see promises broken and these so called 'adults' are all arguing amongst themselves.. and daggers are drawn..
Every party knows how to run the country.. except the one running it..
A bloody shambles...
AND, now rumour has it that the Tripple Lock is to be scrapped for good, despite their sound promises that it will stay. :angry:
Good old Hunt, isn't he a peach? A rotten to the core one. :nooo:
Horrible man... and his eyes are too close together...
I have never, ever had any time for Hunt since the mess he made in charge of the NHS when SoS. One of my then correspondents', the GM of a large GP practice (you know, back in the days that GPs actually existed) reckoned that as far as Jeremy was concerned, the 'C' was silent - make your own interpretation - but I found it hard to disagree (and didn't)
Quote from: Raven on October 18, 2022, 01:30:31 PMAND, now rumour has it that the Tripple Lock is to be scrapped for good, despite their sound promises that it will stay. :angry:
Good old Hunt, isn't he a peach? A rotten to the core one. :nooo:
Hunt has caused some of our local members to resign & I've informed our Party Chair that I'm contemplating leaving the Party.
I will give it a few weeks to see what happens as I think it carries more clout being a member & threatening to resign.
One thing's for sure, it'll be interesting if we get a 2.5% State Pension rise in April, coupled with the removal of the Energy Price Cap.
They must have factored in that the next election is already lost. What they must surely be concentrating on is damage limitation. Considering a fair percentage of their voters are pensioners then that would be a pretty stupid move. Mind you ... Hunt? ... Yep it's going.
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Quote from: klondike on October 18, 2022, 05:24:13 PMThey must have factored in that the next election is already lost. What they must surely be concentrating on is damage limitation. Considering a fair percentage of their voters are pensioners then that would be a pretty stupid move. Mind you ... Hunt? ... Yep it's going.
I'd have thought that keeping the Triple Lock & the Energy Price Cap Guarantee would have given them at least a fighting chance in 2024 & if they do lose then it won't have cost them anything as Labour will be left to sort things out. And if they win they'll have 5 years to sort it out.
It'll be interesting to hear from my MP, he's a thoroughly decent & moderate chap who does say what he thinks & doesn't give us any waffle.
I have to say what I'm seeing as this debacle unfolds and the response to it of so many of my English friends is very worrying indeed. Who appointed Hunt, it certainly wasn't the Prime Minister. Its those who are to the side, no longer MP's but bitter Globalist remainers who can never come to terms with their viewpoint being rejected. They control the MP's through one means or another, either bribery or fear. The way this poor woman, whatever you may think of her has been humiliated by these utter bastards is nothing but disgusting. Next time around I think at least half of our 'generations' will abstain. I predict Hunt, will be the most austere Chancellor ever. You can see from his manor how he revels in scaring people witless, he reminds me of some of the most psychologically unbalanced people I met in a long career in criminal law.
The Parliamentary Conservative Party are so out of touch they actually really believe they'll pull it round by the third quarter of next year! The distrust and hatred created by their sheer arrogance will condemn I believe the party to historic oblivion. Half of them are Liberals and at least a quarter woke greens anyway? What we knew as Conservatism is now a minor composite overall and will be superseded by the Liberal 'Democrats' into either third or fourth place depending on how Krankie & co poll etc.
What is becoming of this world? Over here we have a witless, mentally de-generate geriatric 'supposedly' running things! Europe is nothing more than a shop window for the WEF, Canada and New Zealand are run by shameless ideaologs of soft cell fascism.
I'm glad today, I'm nearer the exit, than where I came in!
Yes Cassandra I feel the same way, it's so sad that our last years should be spent this way in total disappointment. Most of our generation when we were young had such high hopes for our future, I can't believe what has happened to our once great countries.
Peoples brains have been numbed, they swallow all the rubbish they are told, vote for the old parties who they know will do the same as they have always done, things will never change until people wake up and see who is really ruling the roost, not us for sure.
One thing for sure we are all in trouble, is it enough to bring on civil unrest? who knows.
... and we talk about how our young people have no understanding how times were hard for many way back when we were younger..
They are learning fast..
Quote from: Cassandra on October 18, 2022, 06:08:11 PMThe Parliamentary Conservative Party are so out of touch they actually really believe they'll pull it round by the third quarter of next year! The distrust and hatred created by their sheer arrogance will condemn I believe the party to historic oblivion. Half of them are Liberals and at least a quarter woke greens anyway? What we knew as Conservatism is now a minor composite overall and will be superseded by the Liberal 'Democrats' into either third or fourth place depending on how Krankie & co poll etc.
It was more or less confirmed at our constituency meeting tonight that the Triple Lock will go, but the Double Lock will also have to go as that was linked to inflation, so that just leaves the 2.5% element of both of them.
I said that we'll be wiped out in next May's local elections & wiped out in the 2024 General Election.
Word on the ground is that if Starmer gets a big enough majority he'll take us back into the EU.
If he doesn't then he's planning to do a deal with the Lib Dems which will include bringing in proportional representation.
Quote from: Diasi on October 18, 2022, 10:04:42 PMIt was more or less confirmed at our constituency meeting tonight that the Triple Lock will go, but the Double Lock will also have to go as that was linked to inflation, so that just leaves the 2.5% element of both of them.
I said that we'll be wiped out in next May's local elections & wiped out in the 2024 General Election.
Word on the ground is that if Starmer gets a big enough majority he'll take us back into the EU.
If he doesn't then he's planning to do a deal with the Lib Dems which will include bringing in proportional representation.
I reckon the threat about Starmer rejoining the EU, is the
Dept of Fear scraping the barrel and attempting to caste doubt etc. I think he'd go for alignment with the Single Market and our return to such and therefore membership again of the ECJ. He'd fall short of full membership this time round, as we're immeshed in the nets of EU treaty gobbledegook anyway. 2029 gives time for many of us to die and for Starmer to brainwash the brain dead via their hand held devices into welcoming the world of Schengan and free roaming.
Two and a half percent for pensioners, after promising the triple lock will see them deservedly vapourised and those that live to 2024 will make sure revenge is theirs to watch.
In a
Yougov poll out tonight Labour are presently set for a 364 seat majority
(not seats, which today would be 507!). That leaves 143 between the rest. So Krankie will take 59 of them and say 40 to the Libdumbs. After a few Green sprouts and Irish maybe the Tories down to 30 - 35 seats, with SNP or Liberals neck and neck to be the official opposition. They thoroughly deserve
"A damn good Thrashing" as Terry Thomas would have said. For them it's most likley to be a one way ticket too, like the Liberals in 1922.
As I live in a constituency that has returned a Labour MP since time immemorial, my vote has always felt like a drop in the ocean. The opposition in the traditionally Labour council is becoming every more Green. At least they organise litter picks!
I'm going to try not to waste any of my shrinking grey matter on the current mayhem that is UK politics, instead I'll concentrate on the good things in my life.
very wise, granny
Quote from: Cassandra on October 19, 2022, 12:29:52 AMI reckon the threat about Starmer rejoining the EU, is the Dept of Fear scraping the barrel and attempting to caste doubt etc. I think he'd go for alignment with the Single Market and our return to such and therefore membership again of the ECJ. He'd fall short of full membership this time round, as we're immeshed in the nets of EU treaty gobbledegook anyway. 2029 gives time for many of us to die and for Starmer to brainwash the brain dead via their hand held devices into welcoming the world of Schengan and free roaming.
Some MPs have a good friendly rivalry relationship with the opposition & I'm sure that the information has come from a Labour MP, who's confidence of getting into government has been boosted by the recent polls.
Of course, it could just have been a bit of wind-up banter.
Either way, Labour will take us back into the EU at some point.
Quote from: GrannyMac on October 19, 2022, 07:28:00 AMI'm going to try not to waste any of my shrinking grey matter on the current mayhem that is UK politics, instead I'll concentrate on the good things in my life.
It's bit difficult for me to do that when the current mayhem could well cost me £thousands.
I try to avoid the news and any press reports on this sad state of affairs.. That is very difficult at the moment because it's in your face wherever you look..
Nothing surprises me anymore where politics are concerned..
All I know is that my bloody lap top is playing up and It looks like it will have to be replaced.. bugger..
What's up with the laptop?
My laptop takes an age to connect to the internet.. and when it does the screen is not very bright.. I was wondering if there was a poor connection with the lead.. Would that make any difference..? I have patched the lead up with a bit of sticky tape,,
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 19, 2022, 09:55:42 AMMy laptop takes an age to connect to the internet.. and when it does the screen is not very bright.. I was wondering if there was a poor connection with the lead.. Would that make any difference..? I have patched the lead up with a bit of sticky tape,,
Is the power light on & does it show as charging?
Can't you adjust the screen brightness?
Which lead have you bodged up? If it is the power lead it won't affect connect time but could be a problem in other ways and isn't something I'd really recommend.
The power light keeps blinking on and off..
I have no idea about brightness.. It was ok yesterday..
Perhaps I need a new power lead.. That is the one I have 'bodged up'..
scrumpy
most laptops allow you to adjust screen brightness by the use of two of the function keys - on this one F6 makes the screen darker, F7 makes it brighter
Mike
Some laptops dim the screen when they are running on battery.
If you have taped up the power lead we may assume it was damaged.
Either repair the lead or replace the whole external power supply.
Dim screen is probably because it is on battery as Ashy suggests - that behaviour is in the power settings and I think it is the default. My screen brightness is controlled by function keys too F4 and F5 in my case - they have sun icons on them one snmaller than the other.
What happens when you run it with the charger in? Hovering the mouse over the battery icon in the taskbar should tell you how well charged it is. If it is close to full then the power lead and charger are probably OK but it really isn't a good ides to repair a power lead unless you know what you are doing.
None of that should influence how long it takes to connect though.
Anyway, back on track, Liz Truss has just confirmed that the Triple Lock will be honoured, so I imagine the threat of some serious repercussions, sent from the local Party constituency meetings, has brought about this 11th hour decision.
Perhaps somebody reminded the pricks what percentage of Tory voters are Pensioners. It ain't rocket surgery.
I've had Politics day and night for months, and I'm sick to death of it.
Sick of the Labour not being Labour. :boo:
Sick of the Tories and their lies, fights, and broken promises. :wtf:
Sick of the SNP squawking about Independence and back to the EU. :boo:
Sick of the Greens and the Lib Dems, just because I don't agree with anything they say. :boo:
I'm not a Political Animal it bores me rigid, I feel like giving them all the thrashing I feel they richly deserve. :angry:
I'll hold your coat!
Quote from: Michael Rolls on October 19, 2022, 12:52:40 PMI'll hold your coat!
I'll come & watch & egg her on. :clap:
Quote from: Diasi on October 19, 2022, 12:20:44 PMAnyway, back on track, Liz Truss has just confirmed that the Triple Lock will be honoured, so I imagine the threat of some serious repercussions, sent from the local Party constituency meetings, has brought about this 11th hour decision.
But she's not the Prime Minister anymore, Hunt and the suits are and he's known historically to be committed to the abolition of the triple lock. Unless, being the devious scullion that he is, has maybe accepted that the pensioner vote turn off would be personally terminal. He therefore lets it go through at 10%, but casts the blame for this (as he views it), iniquitous override of his advice, upon her and thereby astutely adds another nail to her coffin lid. For him its win, win, he thinks. However he only has a marginal majority in his constituency and the Liberals
(2nd place) were up 29% on him last time. Hopefully he won't survive in an arrid Tory climate and can then join his fellow hobgoblins Grieve, Hammond, Gauke and Soubry in 'Boot Hill'. An ironic circumstance, as he's really a Lib-dem anyway!
Quote from: Cassandra on October 19, 2022, 01:14:13 PMTheir credibility cannot recover in time for 2024. They are no longer Conservatives.
I know I should be glad as I loathe the Toxic Tories, but what have they morphed into? Nothing decent, we should be a lot more worried than we already are. [2010]
The Triple Lock.. !!
Liz Truss can promise all she likes.. She will not be around long enough to carry it through.. She is not in charge..
BUT.. They will lose the 'Oldies' vote if they don't follow through with their promises.. and we are a large majority.. because we bother to get off our arses and vote..
Quote from: Raven on October 19, 2022, 12:51:58 PMI'm not a Political Animal it bores me rigid, I feel like giving them all the thrashing I feel they richly deserve. :angry:
That and the fact you posted it say's to me that you actually are a political animal. :grin:
Havers. :nooo:
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 19, 2022, 01:23:17 PMThe Triple Lock.. !!
Liz Truss can promise all she likes.. She will not be around long enough to carry it through.. She is not in charge..
BUT.. They will lose the 'Oldies' vote if they don't follow through with their promises.. and we are a large majority.. because we bother to get off our arses and vote..
The Triple Lock will be implemented & will continue to be implemented, Hunt will do what all the local constituencies, via their MPs, tell him to do.
The grassroots members are in the driving seat for this one.
Perhaps they should tell him to stop the bloody dinghy boys then. That would save more votes than preserving the triple lock.