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Will he.? Could he.?
Looking possible..
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 21, 2022, 06:43:55 AM..baby
Will he.? Could he.?
Looking possible..
If you mean Boris, then yes, from what I've been told he will stand for election.
And from the feedback from the local Party groups he'll stand a good chance of being returned as leader / PM.
He'll get my vote.
I do mean Boris...
Will members be voting for a leader.. or will it be an inside job.. ?
I truly hope he returns ... At least with Boris you know he is a bloody clown and he does not try to hide it.. like the others do..
Members are supposed to get a vote between the last two candidates, but if one of them drops out for some reason, they don't. As I understand it.
So will it be back to the net-zorro-woke-tax-and-more-tax-freeze-for-Ukraine or something worse?
Sorry Scrumpy but I think it should be a General Election. Also Boris IMO would be a fool to trust them. They kicked him out of office not so long ago, they will do it again if they feel like it.
Ashy... you must contain your excitement ..
It will all be revealed in next weeks episode..
October 21, 2022, 09:20:41 AMQuote from: Raven on October 21, 2022, 09:17:28 AMSorry Scrumpy but I think it should be a General Election. Also Boris IMO would be a fool to trust them. They kicked him out of office not so long ago, they will do it again if they feel like it.
:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: someone remove this lady.. I think she is a Labour supporter...
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Quote from: Scrumpy on October 21, 2022, 09:09:53 AMI do mean Boris...
Will members be voting for a leader.. or will it be an inside job.. ?
I truly hope he returns ... At least with Boris you know he is a bloody clown and he does not try to hide it.. like the others do..
Yes, as per my earlier post, we've all had an email from CCHQ to say that MPs will choose two candidates for whom the membership will vote.
I'll know more next Tuesday.
Haven't they said if one candidate gets 100 votes, he will automatically become PM or have I misunderstood this ?
I thought you needed a 100 votes to put yourself forward..
At least the wallpaper is still fresh..
There are around 350 Tory MPs. To get on the ballot 100 backers are needed. There may well only be one candidate who gets 100 to publicly declare for them. I suspect it was deliberately set up that way. I'm not sure if there is to be a run off which should produce the two to go to the members.
I reckon if Boris gets it there will be a lot of very angry Tory MPs.
I reckon if Sunak gets it there will be a lot of very angry members.
This doesn't sound to me like it will settle much of the turmoil.
Even the Scottish Tories don't want Boris back. :wtf:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-63344492
Penny or Boris for me..
Anyone other Rishi Sunak.. can't stand the man.
I think somebody is going to be.....
Disappointed
It's painting by numbers. All WEF.
The one that stays at no 10 the longest is Larry...
Yes, you have misunderstood.
The 100 votes from MPs will ensure that there can be no more than three candidates, the MPs will then vote for their choice out of the three & the two with the most votes will be put to a vote by the membership.
If, say, only one candidate gets 100 votes at the first round of MP votes then they would automatically become leader & PM.
I still think it's a stitch-up to get Sunak elected, but if Boris gets onto the ballot paper I'll be amazed if he doesn't win.
My MP, a very well respected senior member of the Conservative Party has always supported Boris & will vote for him on this occasion too.
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 22, 2022, 08:39:12 AMThe one that stays at no 10 the longest is Larry...
Watching unamused at the latest Cat-astrophe!
Quote from: Michael Rolls on October 22, 2022, 09:55:44 AMWatching unamused at the latest Cat-astrophe!
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Quote from: Diasi on October 22, 2022, 09:34:11 AMYes, you have misunderstood.
The 10 votes from MPs will ensure that there can be no more than three candidates, the MPs will then vote for their choice out of the three & the two with the most votes will be put to a vote by the membership.
If, say, only one candidate gets 100 votes at the first round of MP votes then they would automatically become leader & PM.
I still think it's a stitch-up to get Sunak elected, but if Boris gets onto the ballot paper I'll be amazed if he doesn't win.
My MP, a very well respected senior member of the Conservative Party has always supported Boris & will vote for him on this occasion too.
Thank you Diasi.. Interesting to read.. Information that I was not aware..
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 22, 2022, 10:21:49 AM:grin: :grin:
Thank you Diasi.. Interesting to read.. Information that I was not aware..
I've just seen that I put 10 votes from MPs when I meant to put 100 votes from MPs so I've amended it.
There are only 357 Tory MPs so only three can get 100 votes each.
Forget what you read in the press, a lot of MPs who were against Boris Johnson have changed their minds as they know he's the only one who can salvage the next election.
The YouGov polls don't include blokes in the North East building site canteens, but these are the blokes who smashed the Red Wall in 2019.
The fact that Boris is a far from perfect 'Jack the Lad' is the precise reason they voted for him in the first place.
I see Rishie now has just over the 100 backers needed.
Quote from: Alex on October 21, 2022, 11:13:10 AMHaven't they said if one candidate gets 100 votes, he will automatically become PM or have I misunderstood this ?
Quote from: Diasi on October 22, 2022, 09:34:11 AMYes, you have misunderstood.
If, say, only one candidate gets 100 votes at the first round of MP votes then they would automatically become leader & PM.
I missed out 'at the first round' :)
Quote from: Alex on October 22, 2022, 12:09:46 PMI missed out 'at the first round' :)
If one MP gets 100 votes & no MPs, or just a handful of MPs, vote for the other two candidates then that person would automatically become leader.
I've spoken to a few local Party members this morning & none of them will vote for Sunak.
The UK needs a general election, the Tory pigpen's need jetting out. They are a bunch of lying, hypocritical incompetents. If Johnson returns with a Parliamentary Privileges Committee inquiry hanging over him then what a deviant act of duplicity, even by the standards of these odious MP charlatans. Don't forget 57 'Ministers' in the end resigned, to get him out merely 14 weeks ago. Now over half say they will vote for his return. It's more laughable than Dallas, when Bobby Ewing was 're-born' in the shower - its full-blown Political perjury!
Johnson is not only an Economic illiterate, he's unfit for any Public office on a range of issues, which is why he could be re-elected, reflecting the level of degradation and dishonour that the Conservatives have sunk too.
Flagrantly disgusting as is the other wretched candidate who's going to win anyway!
I think Boris has his 100 votes..
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/10/22/net-immigration-to-soar-to-300000-this-year-thanks-to-bojos-post-brexit-scheme-report/
Net migration to Britain is reportedly on pace to breach 300,000 this year, increasing by more than a quarter over last year as a result of former Prime Minister Boris Johnson's post-Brexit migration plan which opened the doors to millions to come to the United Kingdom.
This will be an increase from 239,000 last year, and would rival net migration during the years leading up to the vote for Brexit — which millions of voters believed would result in a more manageable level of immigration.
Where are all these people going to live? I know a woman who has just been given notice to leave her rented home, she has an Autistic son and can't find anywhere else to rent, crazy taking in all these people.
The French have had enough and taken to the streets, "immigrant murderers " is the chant, after another French child is raped and murdered by immigrant men.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1583794209923878912
Quote from: Alex on October 22, 2022, 08:36:43 PMThe French have had enough and taken to the streets, "immigrant murderers " is the chant, after another French child is raped and murdered by immigrant men.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1583794209923878912
My husband watches Euronews (he says you don't get the truth on British news), he says all hell is braking out in France over many different things, it's not covered on the BBC or our MSM. I doubt if the French would have put up with gang rape Telford, Rotherham etc. style, I bet those responsible would be hanging from French lamp posts.
Quote from: Jacqueline on October 22, 2022, 09:38:20 PMMy husband watches Euronews (he says you don't get the truth on British news), he says all hell is braking out in France over many different things, it's not covered on the BBC or our MSM. I doubt if the French would have put up with gang rape Telford, Rotherham etc. style, I bet those responsible would be hanging from French lamp posts.
BBC, ITV, Ch 4, in fact all MSM, apart from GB news are controlled by the Globalists. That reflects in the way for 16 months they've starved the brave new channel from advertising revenue from the Globalist controlled multi national companies. As none other than Kelvin Mckenzie, the firebrand Ex Sun Editor pointed out 'they don't get rich from the advertisers we've just seen' as he appeared on Dan Woottons slot a few weeks back and he's right.
Meanwhile the WEF battalions have manipulated 'Warner Bros' who recently acquired the Discovery channel (One of GB news Founders) to sell up and pull out. So probably the writings on the wall for this brave lone voice for freedom. Today you have a choice obey 'Big Brother', or be annihilated!
Presently a major legal case over here is forcing Pfizer to reveal data, they have persuaded Sleepy Joe to put in the freezer for 50 years. 'Allegedly' it clearly shows a major conspiracy by the MSM (main stream media) in collusion with Pfizer to cover up myocardial and other deaths that they knew were directly attributable to Big Pharma's miracle! Unlike the UK they won't be able to deliberately mislead the 'public' and get away with it, but boy will they try!
I also know of someone who is looking to rent property.. She is finding it impossible..
The price of renting has gone sky high in this area..
She works at the airport.. doesn't claim for anything..
She worries about this .. Illegals hitting our shores worry about nothing once they have been escorted to a warm room.. medical checks.. phones.. FREEDOM..
Would I protest on the streets..!! Yes.. I would.. It seem the fit and healthy of this country are AFRAID to protest about others of a different race or skin colour.. We are silenced by 'Do gooders' and human rights..
I have no worries as to what people think of me for saying these things..
If the truth be known ...they know that I am saying what they only dare to think...
Quote from: Cassandra on October 22, 2022, 03:10:32 PMJohnson is not only an Economic illiterate, he's unfit for any Public office on a range of issues, which is why he could be re-elected, reflecting the level of degradation and dishonour that the Conservatives have sunk too.
You may well be correct, but I have spent 20 years working on building sites & I can say, from my personal knowledge, that the lads in the North East building site canteens, who wouldn't have pissed on a burning Tory previously, accepted Boris because he came across as a bit of a non-conformist 'Jack the Lad' & helped to secure his Red Wall seat victories.
They won't vote for Sunak, with his reported £730 million, numerous homes all over the world & his Richmond area home with a swimming pool that's reported to cost £14,000 a year to heat.
These blokes don't do woke PC academic debates & couldn't care less about Boris's wallpaper or a few drinks at number 10, but you never see them being interviewed on any political panel shows.
The ones that we see being interviewed are the 'right-on' Tarquin & Arabella Jefferson-Smyths from Surbiton, not Wayne & Chantel Higgins from Sunderland.
If Sunak become PM the Tories will definitely lose every single Red Wall seat & the General Election.
If Boris returns as PM the Tories stand a chance of not losing.
You should have watched Farage's show on Thursday from Deal. At one point there was a show of hands on how many would support a return of Boris. The result surprised Farage and the GBNews politics bloke with him. I won't spoil it for you by telling you what it was. If you don't want to watch it all start at about 35 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivfWQeJAuH0
I saw the programme, if they'd been broadcasting from Sunderland and not Deal, the show of hands may have been different. :upvote:
Quote from: Alex on October 23, 2022, 01:56:09 PMI saw the programme, if they'd been broadcasting from Sunderland and not Deal, the show of hands may have been different. :upvote:
Thanks for the video clip Alex.
The young little twat who pops up at 35 minutes & doesn't look grown up enough to be wiping his own arse without help from his Mummy, is a typical example of a Tarquin Jefferson-Smyth.
All the audience looked like Prosecco drinking dinner party types & their views are all that the viewers watching the programme will hear.
There was a Yougov poll on Boris' return as PM on Friday.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/10/21/10727/1
For me he blew it with his open doors immigration and net zero mania quite apart from his apparent inability to ever tell the truth.
The Deal audience didn't want Boris back but they didn't want sunak either. If there is a competent conservative in the conservative party they don't want to be leader, whilst the ambitious ones don't suit anyone.
Deal has become a dormitory town since it lost its fishing industry and gained access to HS1 trains to London. Probably has the demographic of Canary Wharf these days.
Quote from: Ashy on October 23, 2022, 06:31:16 PMIf there is a competent conservative in the conservative party they don't want to be leader, whilst the ambitious ones don't suit anyone.
It would take quite an optimist to believe that they could turn round both the economic tsunami that is coming and also have the electorate forget the absolute chaos this party has produced over the last year.
I don't believe there actually is anybody within the ranks of the Tories with the skills needed to pull that off and if there were I imagine they would be lying low anyway because leaders who lose elections don't often remain leaders and the chances of winning next time are slim to nil.
I firmly believe that we could be seeing the end of the party itself. Whatever happens I can't believe that they will win the next election.
Quote from: klondike on October 23, 2022, 04:32:14 PMThere was a Yougov poll on Boris' return as PM on Friday.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2022/10/21/10727/1
For me he blew it with his open doors immigration and net zero mania quite apart from his apparent inability to ever tell the truth.
But YouGov polls don't mean anything to the lads in the North East building site huts & the poll is a million miles away from what my MP thinks & from how my local Party association will be voting.
Unless the brown envelopes stop us from getting the chance to vote.
I'm past caring which route the Conservative and Unionist Party takes now. I think the destination is pretty much fixed already.
The government are very busy trying to take away our freedoms and rights behind all these shinanigans.
Quote from: klondike on October 23, 2022, 08:30:41 PMI'm past caring which route the Conservative and Unionist Party takes now. I think the destination is pretty much fixed already.
Now that Boris has dropped out I'm pinning my hopes on it being a vote for the Indian or for Penny Mordaunt.
If the Indian gets in the Tory Party is finished & I'll resign my membership.
Quote from: Diasi on October 24, 2022, 08:59:09 AMIf the Indian gets in the Tory Party is finished & I'll resign my membership.
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Rishi Sunak !!
He only got the job because he was the last man standing..
Nothing to brag about there.. He couldn't even beat Liz Truss..
All very, very strange..
I'm sure that the MPs considered him the best amongst their huge pool of talented individuals all capable of uniting the country and the party while solving the economic, energy, NHS, police, transgender, illegal migration, etc. etc. etc. issues blindfold. They were so united that none would stand against him. All hail Fishy Rishi the best man for leadership of the sinking ship of state.
We should all be prepared to be amazed at the future path we will tread under this Goliath of a PM.
Why would so many elected MPs appoint a person with no personality or talent, whom nobody likes, to the top job, if they didn't want him to take the blame for something awful, and he was stupid enough to put his anatomy in such a position that it will certainly be kicked?
Ahh!!.. but he gets a a very good pension out of it..
Pocket money to him. Probably being PM was on his bucket list. He must surely know that it is a severely time limited job.