Would you buy an electric car?

Started by JBR, August 24, 2022, 05:58:04 PM

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Ashy

I suppose they could just keep putting up the tax on proper fuel and/or parking. Some people are talking of road pricing which makes every road a toll road. This won't be a free country much longer.

klondike

The technology is pretty much in place for road pricing. Pioneered by your friend and his with his pollution zone or whatever it is called and the various toll roads. Plus of course the surveillance society ANPR and speed cameras all over the place. I imagine that they will just slap it on top of existing car tax in a further attempt to price the oiks out of personal transport other than push bikes (which they were talking about regulating (ie taxing) too I saw mentioned in a recent thread. Watch out for pavement fund taxes on trainers some time soon. They got a taste of locking folks up with lockdown and probably enjoyed it.

JBR

Encouraging, or forcing, everyone to use an electric car is frought with problems.
They are expensive to buy, expensive to replace when the battery is a few years old, almost impossible to sell on as second-hand, heavier than ICE cars so more tyre wear.  
Then, of course, the other known problems: limited range, long charging times, shortage of (working) charging points, and the other obvious forthcoming problem: we have already been promised power cuts this winter as the electricity infrastructure is going to struggle - this, too, is bound to impact on those who have had the 'foresight' to buy an electric car!

Many people (rich people) have bought them now, but I am sure that they'll regret their decision when the penny eventually drops.

Assuming that the government decides to stick to its guns, we are going to revert to a society which relies on public transport (I assume they will also ban ICE buses), cycles or walks.  A shame about all the old people who are not fit enough to do either of the latter.

I suppose the next logical, and eventual step would be for people to buy a horse and a trap or cart to provide for their transport needs.  "I'm just popping down to the supermarket where I know they have hitching posts for the horse.  I shouldn't be gone above a few hours."  Going back to the 19th century?
I suppose if you have a garage it would be a suitable place to keep your horse.
I can't believe that this has never crossed the minds of the politicians and their greenies who have had this bright idea.
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Ashy

No mate, they think we're going to hire a zip car. I'm not.

Countryman

I reckon in years to come, today's electric cars will be compared to the Sinclair C5


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klondike

This suggests that the enormous boost in the cost of home energy means electric cars will soon be costing more per mile than diesel and already do if using commercial fast chargers rather than home charging.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/31/electric-car-journeys-to-cost-more-than-diesel-by-january/

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JBR

Quote from: klondike on September 01, 2022, 09:16:17 AMThis suggests that the enormous boost in the cost of home energy means electric cars will soon be costing more per mile than diesel and already do if using commercial fast chargers rather than home charging.

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/31/electric-car-journeys-to-cost-more-than-diesel-by-january/
Absolutely.
If and when our new PM should (though unlikely) stick to her promises and begin to build nuclear power stations (especially our own RR SMRs), after several years electricity might become more reliable and a little cheaper.
Of course, as soon as enough idiots (er, sorry, people) invest in EVs, electricity will become taxed more highly just as they do for petrol and diesel.
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Diasi

With only the requirement of a slight ability to see beyond the trees, the chaos that will, in my opinion, be caused by electric cars is blindingly obvious.

Take a typical bank holiday with tens of thousands of cars on the road making a 300 mile journey. At the moment 90% are petrol / diesel & will have their tanks filled for the forthcoming journey & will go from A to B without needing to be refuelled. Those that do will take about 5 minutes to be refuelled.

The average EV will need to be recharged after about 200 miles & it will take at least an hour which isn't a problem with so few on the roads.

Fast forward to when 90% of cars are EVs, the thousands of ICE cars that didn't need to refuel or only took 5 minutes to refuel, will now be replaced with thousands of EV's all needing to be recharged during the journey & all taking at least an hour.
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JBR

Quote from: Diasi on September 01, 2022, 03:28:18 PMWith only the requirement of a slight ability to see beyond the trees, the chaos that will, in my opinion, be caused by electric cars is blindingly obvious.

Take a typical bank holiday with tens of thousands of cars on the road making a 300 mile journey. At the moment 90% are petrol / diesel & will have their tanks filled for the forthcoming journey & will go from A to B without needing to be refuelled. Those that do will take about 5 minutes to be refuelled.

The average EV will need to be recharged after about 200 miles & it will take at least an hour which isn't a problem with so few on the roads.

Fast forward to when 90% of cars are EVs, the thousands of ICE cars that didn't need to refuel or only took 5 minutes to refuel, will now be replaced with thousands of EV's all needing to be recharged during the journey & all taking at least an hour.
Exactly my opinion too, but can EVs be recharged in only one hour?  I thought it took longer for a full recharge.
Another question, to which I don't know the answer, is if EVs are charged or partially charged rapidly and frequently, would that affect the lifetime of their batteries?
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Alex

I get peed off when the electric toothbrush battery goes flat, no warning.  Not forgetting the bloody stick hoover, that packs up just when you need it. So no, I won't be getting an electric car.

Diasi

Quote from: JBR on September 01, 2022, 03:39:41 PMExactly my opinion too, but can EVs be recharged in only one hour?  I thought it took longer for a full recharge.
Another question, to which I don't know the answer, is if EVs are charged or partially charged rapidly and frequently, would that affect the lifetime of their batteries?
Rapid chargers can do it in an hour, with some of the super rapid chargers taking 30 minutes but it knocks hell out of the batteries, despite what the enthuisiasts may say.

https://bit.ly/3Rrhqnp
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klondike

Quote from: Alex on September 01, 2022, 11:10:40 PMI get peed off when the electric toothbrush battery goes flat, no warning.  
My toothbrush flashes red when you finish brushing if it needs charging. I wouldn't swap it out for a diesel model anyway  :grin:

Raven