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Title: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 03, 2022, 05:08:12 PM
Before the CL Final in Paris on 28th the Liverpool team "took the knee" with the Real Madrid team just looking on.    I have no idea how long this will continue, but I was amused to read a Real Madrid fan's comment - (Google translation btw )   "Yesterday in Saint Denis Liverpool's athletes knelt down begging for forgiveness.
It is seen that they knelt for a short time.
The migrants assaulted, robbed, and mistreated their Liverpool fans"
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Jacqueline on June 03, 2022, 05:21:10 PM
When will this silliness end?  After the BLM leaders helped themselves to money to buy mansions I think they have lost all credibility, but still the idiots take the knee :boo:
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Raven on June 03, 2022, 06:18:32 PM
Taking the knee is just a silly piece of pantomime. Hey look at me, aren't I clever? :yell: Idiots. :nooo:
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Scrumpy on June 03, 2022, 08:00:37 PM
BLM leaders have made millions..
All out to line their own pockets..
That bloke Floyd's family claimed millions ..and I think are still on the make.. Could be wrong but I don't think so.. I remember reading something about it.. They all live pretty well..
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 03, 2022, 08:01:49 PM
A virtue-signaling idiocy
Mike
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: klondike on June 04, 2022, 06:54:59 AM
I know nothing about football but I believe there is a lot of racial abuse from the crowd at times. It seems to me that somehow football picked up on this as a way for the players to express support for their fellow players who get the monkey chants etc. It's a great pity that they chose this discredited symbolism to to so. Time to drop it IMO as it solves nothing.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 04, 2022, 07:28:07 AM
blacks are well represented on the football field, but not in the desk section!!! they are trying to get a rule made that blacks should get proportional representation at managerial level also....lol.... which clubs might vote for that idea
the liebour party brought in such a rule demanding women only lists for certain constituencies, which ended up With Doncasters three MPs being two women and Ed Milliband non of which has ever [to my knowledge ] even mentioned Doncaster in the house... ok they have recently been given City status, which likely means bigger dole offices...
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 04, 2022, 07:29:46 AM
i doff my kepi to management, i could be doing wi one of those multi weather hats
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: klondike on June 04, 2022, 07:32:31 AM
I'm glad you changed it crabbyob. That old one looked like you were going to a fancy dress party.

Those Australian hats with the corks would be waterproof....
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Scrumpy on June 04, 2022, 10:03:57 AM

I still have Sam's old Australian bush hat..  No corks though..
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 04, 2022, 06:57:06 PM
The England team was booed this afternoon in Budapest by 30,000 + kids, for taking the knee   :cool: oh dear oh dear...  How embarrassing, it's about time this nonsense was stopped.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 05, 2022, 08:13:29 AM
it is my opinion....lol.... that all sports shirts should bear an equality sign... is there such a sign,,, erm no, the minorities all demand their own sign/symbol..
get an equality symbol and it should be on the sleeve of every sports shirt, especially the replicas worn by fans...


and Mike when did test cricket bring in the idea of all the players getting not only their name on the cricket shirt but their number too?... bloody garish
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 05, 2022, 09:09:09 AM
Quote from: crabbyob on June 05, 2022, 08:13:29 AMand Mike when did test cricket bring in the idea of all the players getting not only their name on the cricket shirt but their number too?... bloody garish
Can't remember, but not all that long ago. I HATE it - totally pointless - and meaningless. A Rugby player with, say, 15 in his shirt - you know he is the full back - but a cricketer with 66 or whatever - so what? Means nothing.
Mike
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 05, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
lol, being a sports fan i know 66 was when England won the world cup...football
but 66 in cricket is one Joe Root ex and future capt. of your cricket team...
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 05, 2022, 10:00:41 AM
you are correct, of course- but what meaning does a number on his shirt convey?
Mike
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: 1955vintage on June 05, 2022, 02:32:52 PM
The number on the front of the shirt is his place in the roll of cricketers picked for his county. If he is number 664 , then 663 players had been picked before him.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 06, 2022, 06:19:13 AM
Quote from: 1955vintage on June 05, 2022, 02:32:52 PMThe number on the front of the shirt is his place in the roll of cricketers picked for his county. If he is number 664 , then 663 players had been picked before him.
cross purposes - it is the big number on the back of players' shirts to which I object as totally pointless. The small number on the front does have a meaning, as you indicate.
Mike
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 06, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
At the weekend, Gareth Southgate confirmed that the England squad will continue to take the knee " to educate us "    :smiley:  :grin:  :yahoo:   
Southgate will lead the England team out in Qatar for the World Cup, I wonder what the reception will be there, given their reputation for human rights abuses.  Mr Wokegate should stick to the football.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 06, 2022, 01:01:44 PM
Im afraid Mr Southgate does as he is told we need to aim both higher and lower
the ones with the biggest mouths Rio Ferdinand and Louis Hamilton both have mothers whiter than yours...ok... as white then [1090]
but they are welcomed as coloured, where as we turned or collective back on them, so i suppose its all our own fault
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 06, 2022, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: crabbyob on June 06, 2022, 01:01:44 PMIm afraid Mr Southgate does as he is told we need to aim both higher and lower
the ones with the biggest mouths Rio Ferdinand and Louis Hamilton both have mothers whiter than yours...ok... as white then [1090]
but they are welcomed as coloured, where as we turned or collective back on them, so i suppose its all our own fault

My reason for turning my back on Ferdinand has nothing to do with his colour :clap:  :clap:  :clap:  :clap: only you will get that crabbyob
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 06, 2022, 02:03:51 PM
it weas funny Alex, my wife worked in the office of a recovery [car] company and when Ferdinand played with leeds she asked my if i had ever heard of him... Leeds were playing in darkest europe that particular day, so i asked why, she told me her company had taken delivery of a red sports car for Man Utd and they had been ordered to deliver it to manchester Airport and the keys deposited at the reception desk for collecting by one Rio Ferdinand when Leeds flew in that night, and this was six months before a mention of a transfer hit the TV... so not exactly a man of honour is he?
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 06, 2022, 02:07:47 PM
That doesn't surprise me.  :downvote:
Talking of Leeds, did you see James Milner has signed another contract with Liverpool?  but on less money.   I always thought he would go back to Leeds his boyhood club, maybe he will one day !
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 07, 2022, 06:27:33 AM
he has done really well Alex, a real utility player..
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: GrannyMac on June 07, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Quote from: crabbyob on June 06, 2022, 01:01:44 PMIm afraid Mr Southgate does as he is told we need to aim both higher and lower
the ones with the biggest mouths Rio Ferdinand and Louis Hamilton both have mothers whiter than yours...ok... as white then [1090]
but they are welcomed as coloured, where as we turned or collective back on them, so i suppose its all our own fault

Regardless of their behaviour, they have been abused because of their colour. Monkey chants were mentioned.  Some people won't even consider their white heritage, their famiky background, they just see the skin!  My close friend is an example, black dad, white mum. Born and brought up here, in a white, English household, northern accent. White husband, kids' skin colour varies, grandchildren vary even more.  Two are blue eyed and blonde.

Yet the hard of thinking feel its ok to be abusive to someone like her based on what? Pigment? It's hardly surprising that people who've had the same experiences have a bond. 

I don't condone or support extremists from any background, and I agree with you crabbyob that an equality symbol could be the way forward.



Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: klondike on June 07, 2022, 09:37:22 AM
Equality symbol certainly but what they have picked is tainted. It needs changing imo. Not that I have any interest in football anyway.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: GrannyMac on June 07, 2022, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: klondike on June 07, 2022, 09:37:22 AMEquality symbol certainly but what they have picked is tainted. It needs changing imo. Not that I have any interest in football anyway.

Nor me, but there's no need for nastiness towards anyone based on a colour chart. How someone behaves is what counts. 
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 07, 2022, 01:54:52 PM
i cant be racist, im just going into the shower as a half cast
the top half is brown and below the belt is way beyond white... 
as you might suspect i have known some great coloured guys
but they dont help the cause, 
methinks thou dost protest too much. i loved the Blue Mink number with the words 'coffee coloured children by the score..
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Alex on June 07, 2022, 05:29:04 PM
At the end of the day ' taking the knee' is not going to stop some semi literate idiots from kicking off.  (No pun intended :)) In fact it has reached the stage where ordinary fans are puzzled why England is the only team still copying this BLM gesture. Kick Racism Out of Football (Kick It Out) has been the official England campaign name since early 1990s.  While it hasn't managed to kick it out, it's certainly better for black footballers than it was in 1970s and 1980s.
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: Scrumpy on June 07, 2022, 05:51:55 PM
If the 'grown-ups' don't play fair how can we expect the children to do the same..
Nastiness  towards a skin colour be it black or white is abhorrent..

Taking the knee to respect the black person doesn't do anything for me when the white man is equally abused in many areas where the black man rules..
In years to come if it continues and gathers popularity it will be tables turned and the white man will then , in time, ask for recognition..
Title: Re: Taking the knee
Post by: crabbyob on June 08, 2022, 07:36:43 AM
the white male is asking now Scrumpy, all too many doors are already closed to us, its not only racism there has always been them and us.. growing up in Scotland it was the religious 'thing' but as i pointed out to a priest when i was nine, it was he who took my pal away and put him in a 'separate' school 
i have mentioned before on here when i played football every so often i might on a rare occassion ...lol... make a clumsy tackle, now i played all my football in England [thank you England] so when i made my little mistake the guy who landed on the floor was always white and mostly English, :smiley:..so when he rolled over and looked up at me he rarely said 'oh i say' i was usually met wit 'ya big dirty scotch bas****' which of course wounded me deeply... its in the nature of the beast