We're now being told not to call obese people obese & some twat of a scientist has said that thin people can be obese.

Fact :  Some people are Fat.. Well padded.. Rounded .. Fuller figure.. Rotund..
Fact: Some people are Thin.. Lean.. Slight.. Petite.. Slim.. 
Fact:  Fat means more flesh... Lean means less fat

I wish these dreadful people would stop playing around with our words..

    

what a load of bloody rubbish - shot out by academics anxious to find something to make their rambling idiocies seem learned comment.
So, now people aren't pigging out, they suffer from 'chronic appetite dysregulation'!  
It's bloody lack of will power and greed. OK, there are a few - very few - folk with a metabolism that they simply cannot control and which causes their weight to balloon. BUT they are very few. At school the trauma caused by dad's death caused me to lose a fair amount of schooling and to be held back for a year. Out of the 240 boys in my two years there was just ONE boy who was obese - Mark Ison. Although only of average height for the year, he probably weighed half as much again as most of us. I met his parents at a school fete. His dad was tall - perhaps 6'2" or 3"and as skinny as a rake. His mother was petite and slim.
Years ago, embroiled in a very sedentary life style, I was shocked to find that (I am 6'1" when I stand up really straight) that I was 16-13! a few months of more exercise and less food saw me down to 15 stone, and a bit later to 14-7. I thought that was OK, but a few years on, checking BMI, that was also over the top. Got down to around 14-0, then, when Veronica became really disabled, I felt that I had to be as fit as possible to care for her, more exercise and dieting saw me down to 12-7. After she died, I have given up worrying and now, 5 years on, have stalled at around 13-7 to 13-10 and feel comfortable at that weight.
I look at folk in the street and wonder what so many of them think when they look in the mirror? I winder if they do?

It is no coincidence that we have an obesity crisis since we stopped fat shaming people.

What do you mean? Jokes like this?

Well you can disagree with me if you like, but I don't like fat shaming or any other shaming, it's bullying pure and simple in my book. AND I detest bullies young and old. People are what they are and it's not anyone's business but their own. 

I would never fat shame anyone..It is their problem.. nothing to do with me..I have never been a bully..
 I am a size 12.. I could do with losing a bit of weight here and there but , unfortunately, diets can not be targeted to specific areas...  I quite like a bit of chocolate..

Quote from: Scrumpy on May 19, 2023, 06:16:41 PMI would never fat shame anyone..It is their problem.. nothing to do with me.

I agree, but it's most certainly my business when my taxes are being used to pay for their diabetes, hip replacements, Personal Independence Payments & mobility scooters.

The burden on the NHS for diabetes 2 patients caused by obesity and the general cost of overweight equipment has prevented normal people getting proper care.

I oppose bullying in any form but avoiding the subject is not helping.

I'd have thought that 'obese' was a medical term.
So what word should be use?
Fat, porky, piggy, fatso, Billy/Bessie Bunter?

I'd never fat shame anybody, the older you get the harder it is to lose weight.  Been there, got the T-Shirt too.
But I guess it's time to stop blaming the smokers for NHS problems, and move on to someone else eh  ?

I had one of those T shirts too. Unfortunately it shrank in the wash... 

the thing that really upsets me is to see young parents, themselves way over weight, with young children going the same way - vicious circle. There's a young mum in the village with a little one who is about four or five and already grossly overweight.
On the other hand, our local park has a kiddies' play area. Interestingly enough, none of the young parents with young children who frequnet the slides, swings, trampoline, etc., are obese! They don't even look overweight!

I'm all for a healthy lifestyle with properly made meals, fruit n veg ect, and the odd treat. I think the internet is to blame for a lot of kids weight today....Not All. But look at how we spent our time when we were young, very different from todays kids. We were aye outside playing and active, NOT sat in out rooms with tablets ect.
I also think as you get older it's harder to lose weight and it's important to try and exercise several times a week, low impact is fine, walking, swimming ect anything but keep yourself moving.
There are a couple of young mothers here who give their kids sweets all the time, keeps them quiet. Not good at all.