Douglas Murray says it as it is

Started by muddy, February 06, 2024, 01:15:24 AM

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muddy

Douglas Murray says it as it is .

I fear fir this man some Islamist is going to try and kill him one day 

https://youtu.be/MjCR-Ey7SQI?si=nqGJ9XOttMHI8Dkk

Scrumpy

Don't ask me.. I know nuffink..

JBR

The politicians don't give a toss - in fact "more please"!
The police do nothing.  Do we, in fact, even have any now?
People are seeing their livelihoods and their country being ruined before their eyes.
The solution:

civil war.
It's coming, and I hope we win.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

klondike

The United States seem to be losing theirs.

Alex

He tells us so often that this is ' his country' and he doesn't want to share it with the hoards of hamas loving individuals we see parading around our cities every weekend.   There are so many would be jihadists roaming the streets of London, I too fear for his safety.

They love him in Israel, perhaps he'd be safer living there ?

muddy

He does go to Israel quite a lot in his job as a journalist and he is one of the few that have gone into Gaza with the IDF .
Probably is safer there .
It's a sad thought that a man is not safe in his own democratic country .
But I daresay Theo Van Gogh thought he was safe riding his bike down the streets of his country before he was murdered by an Islamic fanatic .

muddy

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Douglas Murray says we are cowards , he has certainly made himself a target .

"I'm not sure I recognise this country any more. Characteristics that I grew up with have been eroded to the point of disappearance. What were those characteristics? I'd say they included a certain doggedness – an indefatigability, a quiet strength and resilience. Where did they go?
We have decided that the men of violence are winning and we must just keep our heads down

A little over two years ago, when Sir David Amess was murdered, I remarked here on the appalling 'tribute' that his colleagues paid in the parliamentary session given over to eulogies to their recently butchered colleague. Of course the MPs all spoke warmly of the man, but you might have come away with the idea that he had died of natural causes. Nobody saw fit to mention that his killer – Ali Harbi Ali – was an Islamic extremist. Nobody saw fit to call for the rooting out of this ideology. Instead they wittered on about the 'Online Safety Bill', which had absolutely nothing to do with Sir David's murder.
Of course some people said then – as they always do – that it would be wrong to jeopardise a trial or tar a whole community. This despite the fact that when Jo Cox was also brutally murdered nobody had any problem describing her killer's foul ideology, or of tarring all Brexit voters with her murder. Anyhow, the killer's trial came and went and nobody has had anything more to say after it than they did the day after his murder.

Then came the news last week that the MP Mike Freer was stepping down from politics after threats. The MP listed a number of causes. It turns out that he was one of several MPs Ali Harbi Ali had been thinking of targeting. Freer has also come under repeated harassment because of his support for Israel. He was sent death threats by a group called Muslims Against Crusades and said that an arson attack on his constituency office was 'the final straw'.
Yet once again his colleagues seemed to have nothing to say. People lamented the sad fact that he was stepping down, but there was no especial outrage. This seems strange to me. It strikes me that had it been far-right extremists who had been targeting Freer, MPs might have had something to say. They might even – rightly – have said that this country should do everything it can to stop far-right extremists attacking MPs. But this was different. The hatred comes from a different direction, so they were silent. Freer himself gave an interview last week in which even he tried to get around the truth of his own situation. He refused to identify the ideology of the people who have been targeting him and even said in one interview that he didn't know what had motivated Ali Harbi Ali to kill Sir David Amess.
]Although I know it is a darn fool position to stand up for someone more than they appear willing to stand up for themselves, let me make an observation. The people targeting Freer are Muslim extremists. It is possible that they include some far-left anti-Israel lunatics. But generally when it comes to the violent bit it's going to be the Islamists. Yet even now neither Freer nor our political class in general seem willing to make such obvious observations. You get an idea why whenever you see them interviewed.
Last week we also learned of the case of Abdul Ezedi, the 35-year-old suspected of carrying out an alkali attack on a mother and her daughters in Clapham. Newsnight ran a segment on this particular form of cultural enrichment with the Conservative MP Caroline Nokes as a guest. Asked to comment on Ezedi's asylum status, Nokes announced grandly that she thought it 'wrong to comment on that'. She proceeded to talk about the risk of 'microaggressions against women Similarly, in an interview with Trevor Phillips, the Education Secretary Gillian Keegan was asked how it was possible that someone turned down twice for asylum, who had already committed more than one sexual offence, had then been granted refugee status? And what was Keegan's answer? 'This is not really about asylum.'
Of course it isn't. It never is. Just like violence is never about Islamism. We live in a society where people seem utterly incapable of identifying problems in front of them.I experienced a touch of this myself this week. Last Sunday I was due to speak to a capacity audience at the Apollo Theatre on Shaftesbury Avenue. The event was a fund-raiser for an Israeli university which lost a number of its students on 7 October. A number of its other students have since re-enlisted in the army and are losing their education. So the fundraiser was to help these students back into education when the war.
But word got out that this was an 'IDF fundraiser'. Various Islamists got active. Theatre staff reported that they were worried about turning up because of threats. Staff from another theatre were drafted in, but somebody leaked their emails and they were threatened in turn. On the morning of the event the theatre pulled out. They had one job – to let the show go on – and they failed. We managed to transfer to the only venue able to be secured, which was a nearby synagogue. But a bunch of Islamists kept trying to find out where the event had relocated to, and meanwhile stood outside the old theatre shouting abuse at me through a megaphone.
I had imagined that in such a situation the Metropolitan Police might be called in. That the authorities might agree that violence and intimidation cannot be rewarded. I'd have thought that in a city where you can openly call for violence against Jews, Jews might be allowed to gather to support other Jews. But no. Chased to the synagogue they were.
As I say, I remember a different Britain. A Britain where Margaret Thatcher stood in Brighton after an attempt on her life and told the world that the men of violence must not be allowed to win. But we don't live in that society any more. We have decided that the men of violence are winning, and that we must as a result all just keep our heads down. Well that's not my Britain, and I trust it's not yours either."

Michael Rolls

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GrannyMac

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Alex

We have decided that the men of violence are winning, and that we must as a result all just keep our heads down.

How true is this !

JBR

Quote from: muddy on February 08, 2024, 11:55:04 AMI had imagined that in such a situation the Metropolitan Police might be called in. That the authorities might agree that violence and intimidation cannot be rewarded. I'd have thought that in a city where you can openly call for violence against Jews, Jews might be allowed to gather to support other Jews. But no. Chased to the synagogue they were.

As I say, I remember a different Britain. A Britain where Margaret Thatcher stood in Brighton after an attempt on her life and told the world that the men of violence must not be allowed to win. But we don't live in that society any more. We have decided that the men of violence are winning, and that we must as a result all just keep our heads down. Well that's not my Britain, and I trust it's not yours either."
You are correct.

Margaret Thatcher was our last exemplary PM and I often try to imagine how things would have gone if her colleagues in the Conservative party had not stabbed her in the back.

It was when Bliar took over that things really began to go downhill, and the country has deteriorated in many ways ever since.  The so-called Conservatives who took over are, I am sure, infiltrated by Liberals in disguise.  Easily done.  Simply state that you will stand and support Conservative values, sit on your backside for a time and then, when your numbers within have increased in the same way, begin to make control of policies and even participate as ministers.

The Metropolitan Police, once an example for the world, are now heavily depleted in numbers (May, of course) and led by incompetent and woke senior members of the farce.  They are now either being ordered to turn blind eyes to certain protests, or are simply afraid of the numbers.  The other bright idea of selling off water cannon, and our new leader of Londonistan, have encouraged even more protestations by the wokerati.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

klondike

Army recruitment advert.



It case it wasn't clear that's the British army.

JBR

Quote from: klondike on February 13, 2024, 09:48:00 AMArmy recruitment advert.



It case it wasn't clear that's the British army.
It has been mentioned a number of times on news programmes that there seem to be two problems here.

Firstly, they cannot persuade lazy young white people to join the forces.  Not only that, but apparently many of them don't want to take on any work at all, preferring to live on handouts.

Secondly, the government, perhaps under orders from the civil service(!), have taken the option of importing foreigners to fill the job vacancies, now including our armed forces.  Most of these are muslims who, I feel, cannot be trusted to defend us especially now that many are pretending to become Christians!  In addition, the numbers keep coming relentlessly; even more when the weather improves.
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire

muddy

Quote from: JBR on February 11, 2024, 11:38:01 AMYou are correct.

Margaret Thatcher was our last exemplary PM and I often try to imagine how things would have gone if her colleagues in the Conservative party had not stabbed her in the back.

It was when Bliar took over that things really began to go downhill, and the country has deteriorated in many ways ever since.  The so-called Conservatives who took over are, I am sure, infiltrated by Liberals in disguise.  Easily done.  Simply state that you will stand and support Conservative values, sit on your backside for a time and then, when your numbers within have increased in the same way, begin to make control of policies and even participate as ministers.

The Metropolitan Police, once an example for the world, are now heavily depleted in numbers (May, of course) and led by incompetent and woke senior members of the farce.  They are now either being ordered to turn blind eyes to certain protests, or are simply afraid of the numbers.  The other bright idea of selling off water cannon, and our new leader of Londonistan, have encouraged even more protestations by the wokerati.




Not surprising the police don't bother when the judges are on the side of the wrongdoers .

[Tanweer Ikram, the "impartial" judge who decided not to punish 3 women who were convicted of terrorism offences for displaying images of paragliders, celebrating the Hamas tactics.

Not only that one of them Heba Alhayek is a Palestinian illegal immigrant who was granted asylum on the basis that she was afraid of being persecuted by Hamas.
In a sane country she would have been deported the moment it became clear she was supporting Hamas not the other way around .

[Our country is lost

JBR

Quote from: muddy on February 15, 2024, 12:15:58 AMNot surprising the police don't bother when the judges are on the side of the wrongdoers .

[Tanweer Ikram, the "impartial" judge who decided not to punish 3 women who were convicted of terrorism offences for displaying images of paragliders, celebrating the Hamas tactics.

Not only that one of them Heba Alhayek is a Palestinian illegal immigrant who was granted asylum on the basis that she was afraid of being persecuted by Hamas.
In a sane country she would have been deported the moment it became clear she was supporting Hamas not the other way around .

[Our country is lost
Our country is certainly lost.
The ruin has been done over little more than 20 years and, I believe, cannot now be undone.

Bliar and a succession of weak Conservative PMs have seen to that.
If I were young, or had children, I'd be off to a civilised country.

How can this happen over such a short period of time?
A missionary from Yorkshire to the primitive people of Lancashire