With depressing predictability, the acid attacker is reportedly an ex asylum seeker, whose claim failed twice before he was finally granted leave to remain.
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/185/502/no-shit-sherlock.jpg)
The attack was horrific those poor little children .
I think that any asylum seeker should be deported immediately they commit a serious offence .
This man had already committed one sex attack .
Quote from: muddy on February 01, 2024, 11:22:12 PMThe attack was horrific those poor little children .
I think that any asylum seeker should be deported immediately they commit a serious offence .
This man had already committed one sex attack .
Sadly, once here never to leave. It's as if our glorious leaders actually intend to completely ruin the country.
well, they are certainly succeeding!
I hope when they find him they shoot him dead .
As they should have done the Nottingham murderer .
Alas.. they will not.. He is just a small fish in a big , big pond..
Acid attacks are on the rise in the U.K.
These are attacks that always target women and are done from people or communities who are from third world brutal cultures
Quote from: Michael Rolls on February 02, 2024, 05:32:00 AMwell, they are certainly succeeding!
It's the only thing they are showing any success at all with.
Quote from: muddy on February 02, 2024, 09:45:02 AMAcid attacks are on the rise in the U.K.
These are attacks that always target women and are done from people or communities who are from third world brutal cultures
All part of the inevitable change in our country. It is depressing.
Other unrelated things too. I read this morning about our intention to send HMS White Elephant to relieve the US aircraft carrier in the Gulf when it is sent home. Just one or two little niggles, though. We only have eight aircraft which can fly from her, we can't send enough destroyers and support vessels to accompany her, and we have nothing much else to help in any way. So she and her sister ship will continue to bob about in Southampton or around and close to our coast!
Our glorious leaders have talked about it, but it ain't going to happen! Mark my words.
those carriers are supposed to have 36 F-35s each -instead 8 between them. Talk about white elephants is just about right.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on February 02, 2024, 10:55:58 AMthose carriers are supposed to have 36 F-35s each -instead 8 between them. Talk about white elephants is just about right.
That's correct.
And another shortcoming, to save a bob or two, by our politicians was not to include cats and traps so that a wider range of aircraft could be used.
Naturally, to install them now would cost several times the amount it would have been to have them when the ships were built.
Talk about incompetent politicians.
Ever since Maggie was stabbed in the back.
Those two carriers are the reason the navy has been cut down so much. They have the carriers but they cannot be used.
One way one could be possibly used would be to replace the US carrier only. Rely on the US carrier support vessels and let the US fly their planes from it. Not sure how practical it would be though. Are US and UK operational procedures close enough that that could be made to work without months or years of cross training?
at the time I was appalled - and still am - at the lack of cats and traps - talk about short sighted!
Quote from: muddy on February 02, 2024, 07:08:15 AMI hope when they find him they shoot him dead .
As they should have done the Nottingham murderer .
From today's Knowledge
Asylum law favours criminals over victimsThere's something truly idiotic about the coverage of the Clapham chemical attack, says Rod Liddle in The Sunday Times (https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/sN1TQcgvg68L25qyVtltZsa16yePihIWFi--KRLK6e-BlFB9oG5DW8OZZNsHtn2-C5JA6i-bk-6n3drGRJofZeiI_sRDpXIdugB2_1Z2QUc_nvL-gYy5OSeBQmkruKayi6BonKg2D81gC2mtqI8tYXYWkkKQByYEicEcPnWM_kZcAXD1_gxZ1icWbe3NrChXD-sw3WPDs7U5GJfLeUSLBn76qhB-sonTInfBL_LoQw9ftD3CAaOLRyrwKoVjiHav_xOJtld2_o0hCOb5wDdVT-PL3t9aaDZnXYM-suxKHaw/43l/tfrITNX6T0Gs7uDtZOMIkA/h1/8Qk63j8p43wgcGhozwViWHGSApor_K0AziY1ZL-F2vs).
The attacker, Abdul Shokoor Ezedi, arrived here illegally from Afghanistan in 2016, in the back of a lorry. He applied twice for asylum and was turned down on both occasions.
Then, in 2018, he was convicted of sexual assault and indecent exposure, and received two suspended prison sentences. Somehow – possibly because he convinced a priest he'd converted to Christianity – his third asylum application succeeded.
And last week this "barbaric, medieval pervert" travelled from his taxpayer-funded home in Newcastle to south London, and threw an alkaline corrosive liquid over a woman and her young daughters.
Newspapers and MPs say they are "surprised, shocked even", that Ezedi was still freely roaming the streets of Britain. But where did they expect him to be?
As anyone who reads the papers must know by now, pretty much no one can be deported from this country because we are hemmed in by legislation that has "not the slightest respect or sympathy for the victims of crime". So it's impossible to boot out illegal immigrants from the Caribbean who are also drug dealers and rapists; or send economic migrants who wash up on the shores of Dover to Rwanda; or force Ezedi back to Afghanistan, even though, given his misogyny, "he might fit in very well".
By pretending there isn't a problem, polite liberals "prop up a system that allows the innocent to be maimed", and ensure we have no way to get rid of those who "hate us but wish to live here".
No need to deport him. Take him on a ride in an airship so he can reflect on matters.
https://youtu.be/HmQnEyiGdGQ?si=_i3sA1aCNqvZgo4k
From around 20 seconds onwards.
Quote from: Ruthio on February 05, 2024, 04:50:51 PMFrom today's Knowledge
Asylum law favours criminals over victimsThere's something truly idiotic about the coverage of the Clapham chemical attack, says Rod Liddle in The Sunday Times (https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/sN1TQcgvg68L25qyVtltZsa16yePihIWFi--KRLK6e-BlFB9oG5DW8OZZNsHtn2-C5JA6i-bk-6n3drGRJofZeiI_sRDpXIdugB2_1Z2QUc_nvL-gYy5OSeBQmkruKayi6BonKg2D81gC2mtqI8tYXYWkkKQByYEicEcPnWM_kZcAXD1_gxZ1icWbe3NrChXD-sw3WPDs7U5GJfLeUSLBn76qhB-sonTInfBL_LoQw9ftD3CAaOLRyrwKoVjiHav_xOJtld2_o0hCOb5wDdVT-PL3t9aaDZnXYM-suxKHaw/43l/tfrITNX6T0Gs7uDtZOMIkA/h1/8Qk63j8p43wgcGhozwViWHGSApor_K0AziY1ZL-F2vs).
The attacker, Abdul Shokoor Ezedi, arrived here illegally from Afghanistan in 2016, in the back of a lorry. He applied twice for asylum and was turned down on both occasions.
Then, in 2018, he was convicted of sexual assault and indecent exposure, and received two suspended prison sentences. Somehow – possibly because he convinced a priest he'd converted to Christianity – his third asylum application succeeded.
And last week this "barbaric, medieval pervert" travelled from his taxpayer-funded home in Newcastle to south London, and threw an alkaline corrosive liquid over a woman and her young daughters.
Newspapers and MPs say they are "surprised, shocked even", that Ezedi was still freely roaming the streets of Britain. But where did they expect him to be?
As anyone who reads the papers must know by now, pretty much no one can be deported from this country because we are hemmed in by legislation that has "not the slightest respect or sympathy for the victims of crime". So it's impossible to boot out illegal immigrants from the Caribbean who are also drug dealers and rapists; or send economic migrants who wash up on the shores of Dover to Rwanda; or force Ezedi back to Afghanistan, even though, given his misogyny, "he might fit in very well".
By pretending there isn't a problem, polite liberals "prop up a system that allows the innocent to be maimed", and ensure we have no way to get rid of those who "hate us but wish to live here".
It seems that just about everyone in any authority in this country can see nothing but good in these illegal immigrants. What is happening? Why are such people so simple-minded and believe every bit of nonsense they hear? Have we no sensible people to lead the country and apply our existing laws to protect us all and what is left of our country worth having?
Oh, why should I worry? There is little I can do about it. I shall vote for Reform anyway, though it seems that not enough people can see the sense in it.
Quote from: JBR on February 05, 2024, 06:00:56 PMIt seems that just about everyone in any authority in this country can see nothing but good in these illegal immigrants. What is happening? Why are such people so simple-minded and believe every bit of nonsense they hear? Have we no sensible people to lead the country and apply our existing laws to protect us all and what is left of our country worth having?
Oh, why should I worry? There is little I can do about it. I shall vote for Reform anyway, though it seems that not enough people can see the sense in it.
Now this I do agree with. :upvote:
and me :upvote: :upvote: :upvote:
Perhaps this will be a wake up call to all about the dangers of allowing dangerous men from medieval cultures illegally into our country .
To those idiot preachers and unscrupulous lawyers I say .
This woman and her children's sufferings may be laid directly on your doorsteps .
Hope you feel good about it .
it's a wake up call to us who care about such things, but not to our woke leaders and opinion formers
Quote from: Michael Rolls on February 06, 2024, 08:37:51 AMit's a wake up call to us who care about such things, but not to our woke leaders and opinion formers
Unfortunately, the impression I get is that most British people don't seem to give a damn.
I think the die is cast now. Disinterested millenials with busted 99.9% interest plastic cards and their anarchic gen Z offspring are absorbed by the 'do or die' zeal of the Islamist infiltrators and their Sharia Law principals ...
Quote from: JBR on February 05, 2024, 06:00:56 PMIt seems that just about everyone in any authority in this country can see nothing but good in these illegal immigrants. What is happening? Why are such people so simple-minded and believe every bit of nonsense they hear? Have we no sensible people to lead the country and apply our existing laws to protect us all and what is left of our country worth having?
Oh, why should I worry? There is little I can do about it. I shall vote for Reform anyway, though it seems that not enough people can see the sense in it.
Me too.
The guy is still on the loose.. Having no cares about being caught.. He knows that he will get a hand slap and after a talking to will be allowed to stay here..
He might even make a few visits to the local Christian church..
I can't belive we can deport him as it to Afghanistan and against his human rights !
Hopefully he's topped himslef or perhaps the police might shoot him it would save a lot of trouble .
Did the police not arrest someone they believe has been helping him? :hmm:
Quote from: muddy on February 07, 2024, 09:30:52 AMI can't belive we can deport him as it to Afghanistan and against his human rights !
Hopefully he's topped himslef or perhaps the police might shoot him it would save a lot of trouble .
I can well believe this to be the case. It is how this country now works, I'm afraid.
Just made me think. Do we have these 'human rights' as well?
Quote from: JBR on February 07, 2024, 10:53:29 AMJust made me think. Do we have these 'human rights' as well?
Look in the mirror and take a guess...
Quote from: klondike on February 07, 2024, 11:34:51 AMLook in the mirror and take a guess...
I see what you mean. My fault entirely. I am, unfortunately, the wrong colour.
Must get a tan.
This is when I wish we had American cops on our streets..
There was all hell to pay when the cop ( Derek Chauvin) kneeled on the neck of George Floyd way back.. I bet there are people out there who wished they hadn't protested about that.. It gave the ***ck man much power.. So much so that I dare not refer to another as being black..
Great piece in today's Telegraph, I'll copy and paste it if you like
Please do Ruthio..
Quote from: Scrumpy on February 07, 2024, 05:22:10 PMPlease do Ruthio..
-Here we go then...
When will we stop men from barbaric cultures acting out their evil ideologies on British soil?
"No civilised nation should accept the importing of patriarchal, women-hating attitudes that put our citizens at risk
When I first heard about the appalling acid (as we then thought) attack on a woman and two children in south London, these were my slightly garbled first thoughts:
a)Some kind of "honour" attack carried out by an enraged man of South Asian origin on a woman he believes he has lost control of.
b)Punishment for perceived female "disobedience", teaching her a lesson she will never forget. Literally "loss of face". Horrifying.
c) Inflicting mutilation on her small daughters to make them "damaged goods" as future brides and cause yet more anguish to the mum.
d) Attacker almost certainly man from patriarchal, misogynist culture who should not be able to import those barbaric, women-hating values to civilised Western country like the UK.
e) Generalised dismay that hundreds more young men from such cultures are arriving on our shores every day and they are treated as "asylum seekers" rather than as what they are – a potential threat to the safety of women and children.
I wasn't too far out, or so it may prove. An Afghan who hid in a lorry to gain entry illegally to the UK, Abdul Ezedi (the alleged attacker), is now the subject of what the Metropolitan Police amusingly called a manhunt "at pace" (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/04/clapham-chemical-attack-latest-manhunt-abdul-ezedi/) .
As opposed to a slightly more laid-back, mañana manhunt, perhaps? Ezedi is rather easily identifiable, since he appears to have burnt off half his own face (good, serves him right), yet he still hasn't been caught and there are suggestions he may have found shelter in east London.
What even I, in the depths of cynicism about our criminally inept Home Office and broken, insanely generous migration system, did not foresee was that the alleged attacker would be an asylum seeker whose claim had been rejected twice, but was then accepted after he had been convicted of a sexual offence in 2018.
How could this possibly be? What is a man like that even doing here? You may well ask.
In what nation with the most basic concern for the welfare of its citizens could a refugee who had already proved himself to be a menace to women be granted the privilege of British residence? Home Office guidance says that offences which cause serious harm prevent a person from being granted asylum, but Ezedi was able to out-victim any potential victims.
Having converted from Islam to Christianity, his lawyers (paid for by the poor bloody British taxpayer) could argue he was at risk of persecution in his native Afghanistan. At his third appeal, the tribunal judge appears to have focused on the fact that Ezedi's recently-acquired faith (ahem) would place him at risk from the Taliban. Some hapless priest helped out, reportedly telling the tribunal that Ezedi, a Halal-observant Muslim according to neighbours in Newcastle, was a "committed Christian".
Every single person and institution in that witless, delusional chain of events is to blame for the fact that a woman is in hospital right now, heavily sedated and horribly disfigured with "life-changing injuries", quite possibly blind. (The two girls, happily, have been discharged from hospital and are expected to make a good recovery.)
I give you those responsible, ladies and gentlemen: the judge who ignored the guidance and gave Ezedi a third-time-lucky chance. The immigration lawyers who made big bucks from arguing a bad man's flawed case and allegedly taught him all the tricks and loopholes. The Home Office, which should have made representations during the appeal hearing that Ezedi must be denied asylum because of his sexual offence (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/02/clapham-attack-abdul-ezedi-home-office-rules-asylum-refused/); except staff at the Home Office don't seem all that bothered about illegal migration, do they? James Cleverly, the Home Secretary, who presides over this lethal farce; the Government, which could leave the European Convention on Human Rights and kick out nasty pieces of work like Ezedi, but prefers to maintain its "international reputation" and record on human rights while endangering its own citizens; the Church of England, and other Christian organisations, which take sanctimonious delight in baptising suspiciously large numbers of asylum seekers and to hell with what the British people want.
And, finally, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby who told the House of Lords in a speech against the Rwanda bill that asylum seekers are "of great value" and Christian tradition was to "welcome the stranger" while accusing those of us who want an end to illegal migration of "shrill narratives that all who come to us for help should be treated as liars, scroungers or less than fully human".
churches as a one-stop shop to bolster their asylum case".
Dr Guli Francis-Dehqani, the Bishop of Chelmsford, denied the allegation, writing in this newspaper: "Churches have no power to circumvent the Government's duty to vet and approve applications – the responsibility for this rests with the Home Office." Claims that a person may be "fast-tracked through the asylum system, aided and abetted by the Church are simply inaccurate," huffed Dr Francis-Dehqani.
But they will. Tragically, and unforgivably, they will. Unless the system is urgently reformed, you can be sure that many more innocent people will suffer and die because our Government and our national Church place more value on the human rights of asylum seekers with beliefs that are entirely alien to our culture than the wellbeing of British citizens.
All together now: "What are those people even doing here?"
Excellent piece. Which will doubtless be ignored by those who should be ashamed for what they have done and failed to do.
Yes, an excellent example of what is happening in our clear sight, supported by our hopeless politicians and typically naive churchmen.
Most of us, the British people, can see exactly what is going on, but what can we do?
Yes, we have a vote every four years or so, but many of us are brainwashed to believe that only the 'two main parties' are actually electable.
All we can hope for is that the majority of British people can eventually realise the only real solution to saving our country. The likely outcome is that people will not see sense until the point where we, the white British, are no longer the majority in our land. Too late then, of course.
So who exactly should we blame?
You ask..."So who exactly should we blame? "
I give you those responsible, ladies and gentlemen: the judge who ignored the guidance and gave Ezedi a third-time-lucky chance. The immigration lawyers who made big bucks from arguing a bad man's flawed case and allegedly taught him all the tricks and loopholes. The Home Office, which should have made representations during the appeal hearing that Ezedi must be denied asylum because of his sexual offence (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/02/clapham-attack-abdul-ezedi-home-office-rules-asylum-refused/); except staff at the Home Office don't seem all that bothered about illegal migration, do they? James Cleverly, the Home Secretary, who presides over this lethal farce; the Government, which could leave the European Convention on Human Rights and kick out nasty pieces of work like Ezedi, but prefers to maintain its "international reputation" and record on human rights while endangering its own citizens; the Church of England, and other Christian organisations, which take sanctimonious delight in baptising suspiciously large numbers of asylum seekers and to hell with what the British people want.
I'll say again, too many ' foreigners' manning the Home Office.
Quote from: Alex on February 07, 2024, 08:57:59 PMI'll say again, too many ' foreigners' manning the Hone Office.
Could you translate that into Urdu, Arabic and Swahili so the HO can understand it?
Quote from: Ruthio on February 07, 2024, 08:44:25 PMYou ask..."So who exactly should we blame? "
I give you those responsible, ladies and gentlemen: the judge who ignored the guidance and gave Ezedi a third-time-lucky chance. The immigration lawyers who made big bucks from arguing a bad man's flawed case and allegedly taught him all the tricks and loopholes. The Home Office, which should have made representations during the appeal hearing that Ezedi must be denied asylum because of his sexual offence (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/02/clapham-attack-abdul-ezedi-home-office-rules-asylum-refused/); except staff at the Home Office don't seem all that bothered about illegal migration, do they? James Cleverly, the Home Secretary, who presides over this lethal farce; the Government, which could leave the European Convention on Human Rights and kick out nasty pieces of work like Ezedi, but prefers to maintain its "international reputation" and record on human rights while endangering its own citizens; the Church of England, and other Christian organisations, which take sanctimonious delight in baptising suspiciously large numbers of asylum seekers and to hell with what the British people want.
Yes, of course. Virtually everyone in any authority are to blame.
But the aim of my question was really who is at the root cause. I'm sure it must be someone in power, and the rest (or most of them) are just following suit knowing that they are 'just doing their jobs'.
The really sad, and upsetting, thing is that there is nothing that we, the ordinary people, can do about it...
other than voting, of course, for what it's worth!
I've seen mention that his injuries coud be fatal if left untreated. Here's hoping.
Gb news thinks he may have jumped off a bridge and drowned in the Thames .
No proof though .
It would be better all around
More slime in our already polluted Thames..
Fish gotta eat don't they?
Quote from: muddy on February 09, 2024, 04:43:51 PMGb news thinks he may have jumped off a bridge and drowned in the Thames .
No proof though .
It would be better all around
Cameras caught him on Chelsea Bridge, but not exiting it anywhere.
Cheapest option I guess
Yes, lets hope there is confirmation at some point that he is dead.
He might just have planned a very clever disappearing act though.
I guess they will never know for sure, unless a body is found.
Let's hope that those who fought for him to remain in the UK reflect upon their folly, and the terrible consequence of their awful decision.
At the very least. His asylum application file should be used for training staff in how really wrong decisions are made!
Quote from: GrannyMac on February 10, 2024, 06:50:02 AMHis asylum application file should be used for training staff in how really wrong decisions are made!
They don't need any training in that - they are experts already. :sad:
It's incomprehensible that we are unable to protect our our citizens from illegal , invasive and violent invaders .
What has gone wrong ?
Lefties is what has gone wrong. In the universities, civil service, media, big business, both Houses of Parliament and all 3 mainstream political parties.
Apparently, the fuzz are checking the Thames, working on the assumption that he's topped himself by throwing himself in. More than likely, the cops can't be arsed looking for him and have taken this option as he disappears into his `community` where he will be protected from the Kafir.
https://youtube.com/shorts/I_uN97X5IZs?si=76Ef_QIGjxzSXbol
Brilliant..
'Finding bodies in the Thames is like buses.. nothing... Then two come along together'
I don't think he is in the Thames.. If the police can't find the suspect the easiest thing to say is ' believed drowned'.
After finding two bodies they stopped because it was creating a shit load of work :clap:
Dining with Lord Lucan then?
Quote from: klondike on February 13, 2024, 09:33:40 AMAfter finding two bodies they stopped because it was creating a shit load of work :clap:
Sums it up I think. 🙄
Why do I feel that I have little or no confidence in the police these days?
I have only seen them in their cars, often with blue lights flashing or stopped behind another car which has probably been speeding or had a crash. Certainly never walking the streets.
I believe that they don't even come out for shoplifters now, and the shopkeepers just let them walk away just for a quiet life, or perhaps they're worried about being stabbed.
I think the police are also afraid of checking out suspicious people on the streets, either because they are afraid to speak to anyone 'of colour' (not pink) to avoid claims of 'racism', or perhaps simply afraid for themselves.
I think it was Treason May who decimated the police force and converted into a service - a branch of social services, or perhaps it could have been another of our other limp PMs over the past thirty years.
Yes, I think your right in your thoughts JBR. :upvote:
Quote from: JBR on February 13, 2024, 12:57:00 PMWhy do I feel that I have little or no confidence in the police these days?
I have only seen them in their cars, often with blue lights flashing or stopped behind another car which has probably been speeding or had a crash. Certainly never walking the streets.
I did see one walking once although it may have been just a plastic policeman. I was so surprised that I grabbed the evidence...
https://youtu.be/-CuQiy0dkho
Looking now it might have been a parking warden too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XNsbbjDv/vlcsnap-2024-02-13-18h15m36s091.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Still not sure. So rare you actually see one. It's like identifying some rare bird.
I remember seeing a policeman and policewoman out on their bikes once too when I was out for a ride. Of course they may not have been on official duties I suppose; it was a nice day.
Could have been Del Boy and Rodney on their way to a fancy dress wake.
If it was a copper, I think he is very brave walking around on his own.
They used to be in pairs when I used to see them, presumably for their own protection.
Sad that it should come to this.