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Title: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 17, 2023, 12:45:01 PM
As you will know by now, political stuff is not something I like and very little interests me BUT, Boris left the job he resigned, he has now got a new job, be it good or bad but what has it got to do with some blooming committee in Westminster?
Why should he need their ok? Bloody cheek IMO.  :nooo:

BBC News - Boris Johnson breaks ministerial code with new Daily Mail job
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65930008
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 17, 2023, 01:09:50 PM
they are out to get him by whatever means they can drum up = envy?
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 17, 2023, 02:09:47 PM
Sometimes I think that most of the inhabitants of Westminster never really left the school playground. They all need a swift boot up the backside on a regular basis.  :nooo:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 17, 2023, 08:34:28 PM
I do hope that if he ever goes to church he doesn't fart or they'll be calling for a return of hanging.

He was daft denying the absolutely obvious to the commons. He paid the price for doing that and has quit parliament. Enough is enough. Stop the continuing character assassination and move on.

Let's face it a politician telling porkies is hardly a man bites dog story.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 17, 2023, 09:45:45 PM
Errrr, I wasn't adding to his character assassination, I just wondered why he needed permission from some committee to take up another job.  [2010]
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Alex on June 17, 2023, 09:57:49 PM
Just another silly rule, but perhaps it's something to do with the Official Secrets Act ? I don't know, Cass will probably know  :upvote:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: dextrous63 on June 17, 2023, 10:07:04 PM
Potential conflict of interest?

In any case, there's nothing that could be done to stop taking up the appointment, but they (the MPs) can express concern/derision.  
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: morty on June 17, 2023, 10:34:57 PM
Writing a column for a news rag sounds awfully respectable for a politician, even an ex-PM.
They're usually caught out accepting backhanders whilst sitting on comittees and getting bribed to raise issues in Parliament or vote a certain way.

Gee, listen at me .. you'd think I was an old cynic.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: dextrous63 on June 17, 2023, 10:42:07 PM
Well, certainly old 😂😂
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 17, 2023, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: Raven on June 17, 2023, 09:45:45 PMErrrr, I wasn't adding to his character assassination, I just wondered why he needed permission from some committee to take up another job.  [2010]
My post may have appeared after yous but it wasn't a reply to it it was just a separate comment.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Ashy on June 19, 2023, 08:46:37 AM
The general idea is that  a minister might have some inside knowledge which should be kept inside. That said, Mr Johnson has not been a minister for some considerable time, since 6th September last year. In any case a ministerial code is not law.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Diasi on June 19, 2023, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: Raven on June 17, 2023, 09:45:45 PMErrrr, I wasn't adding to his character assassination, I just wondered why he needed permission from some committee to take up another job.  [2010]
Well would you want all the inconvenient facts being published in a newspaper every week? Lol  (https://letschat.club/Smileys/klondike/grinning-face-with-smiling-eyes_9601.png)
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 19, 2023, 09:28:30 AM
It could be that like Cummings Boris knows where some of the skeletons were buried.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 19, 2023, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Diasi on June 19, 2023, 09:21:03 AMWell would you want all the inconvenient facts being published in a newspaper every week? Lol  (https://letschat.club/Smileys/klondike/grinning-face-with-smiling-eyes_9601.png)


Think they already are Phil.  :wink:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Diasi on June 19, 2023, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: Raven on June 19, 2023, 11:37:04 AMThink they already are Phil.  :wink:
I imagine Sunak & his supporters will be having some squidgy bum time, waiting for the facts on his appointment to come out.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 19, 2023, 11:43:54 AM
All Westminster seems to do these days is argue with each other, :boo: Used to be a time not so long ago, that the party in office actually worked together, and kept their private lives private.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: GHF on June 19, 2023, 11:45:48 AM
I reckon Boris has buried so many bodies he's lost count, the
cheating, lying, greedy toad.

And that's me putting it mildly.  :nooo:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 19, 2023, 11:46:51 AM
Quote from: GHF on June 19, 2023, 11:45:48 AMI reckon Boris has buried so many bodies he's lost count, the
cheating, lying, greedy toad.

And that's me putting it mildly.  :nooo:

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Alex on June 19, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: GHF on June 19, 2023, 11:45:48 AMI reckon Boris has buried so many bodies he's lost count, the
cheating, lying, greedy toad.

And that's me putting it mildly.  :nooo:

At least he was voted in !
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 19, 2023, 12:11:04 PM
Courtesy of...  :?:

Farage gave him a big chunk of that majority if not all of it.

That majority has been squandered on Net Zero, mass immigration, doing nothing to remove the EU laws and putting NI in the single market coupled with the highest tax burden since WW2 and just about every public service in a state of collapse.

High inflation and associated increased interest rates will be hitting those with mortgages badly soon too - I'm guessing many of those would be Tory voters. Housing market collapse expected any time soon.

He's lost his job and his party look set for a wipeout come the next election. What an arse.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Alex on June 19, 2023, 12:14:36 PM
I don't know much about inflation rates, but surely you can't blame Boris for that too  !  doesn't the Bank of England have a say  ?   Net Zero yes stupid, stupid policy which is happening all over the western world.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 19, 2023, 12:22:42 PM
It's the government who appoint the governor of the BoE and that institution certainly took its eye off the ball. From stuff I've read the authors (with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight) all say rates should have been raised earlier and in bigger increments.

My view is that a lot of inflation is down to humungous energy costs here (made worse by the green subsidies) and probably profiteering.

I doubt that the electorate are going to delve deep anyway though. Many will be here...

(https://gallery.digitalham.co.uk/images/paddle_store.jpg)

... and they'll blame the government.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: JBR on June 19, 2023, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: klondike on June 19, 2023, 12:11:04 PMCourtesy of...  :?:

Farage gave him a big chunk of that majority if not all of it.
He did, but Farage was stupid enough to trust Boris to stand by his tacit agreement, to invite any Reform candidates into an alliance.
Of course, on the back of that agreement, Boris gained many votes which would have gone to Reform.

Now, of course, Reform will be standing again.
It is important that they don't fall for any promises by the Tories this time, especially as I am sure they are building up quite a good following now.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: klondike on June 19, 2023, 01:30:00 PM
Remember UKIP.
4 million votes 1 seat.

If even the BBC say that's unfair then unfair it certainly is.
Mind you they wouldn't mention it now. They'd just bewail an increase in votes for far right extremists.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34368901

I doubt that Reform will do that well this time out.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: JBR on June 19, 2023, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: klondike on June 19, 2023, 01:30:00 PMRemember UKIP.
4 million votes 1 seat.

If even the BBC say that's unfair then unfair it certainly is.
Mind you they wouldn't mention it now. They'd just bewail an increase in votes for far right extremists.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34368901

I doubt that Reform will do that well this time out.
Then the country has well and truly had it!
We (the voters) get what we deserve.
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Raven on June 19, 2023, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: JBR on June 19, 2023, 02:51:57 PMThen the country has well and truly had it!
We (the voters) get what we deserve.

Can't argue with that. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 19, 2023, 05:58:56 PM
it's not what we deserve - it's what we can't change
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: JBR on June 19, 2023, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Rolls on June 19, 2023, 05:58:56 PMit's not what we deserve - it's what we can't change
Oh but we can change it, but it requires a collective majority to do so!
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: Michael Rolls on June 20, 2023, 07:09:23 AM
and I doubt that it will ever happen
Title: Re: Don't See the Need.
Post by: JBR on June 20, 2023, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Rolls on June 20, 2023, 07:09:23 AMand I doubt that it will ever happen
Yes, sadly, I'm afraid you're right.