You really are stupid.. I feel that you have fallen by your own sword..
'Nobody told me it was wrong'!!! Was his answer to a 'party' at No Ten.
This leader who told us what was WRONG and RIGHT forgot to tell himself.. :nooo: that really does merit a bang on the head.
It gets more and more idiotic. The man trusted to run the country can't even tell for himself if his own rules are being broken? Incredible
Mike
He is changing from likeable buffoon to lieing buffoon before our very eyes. He has bounced back before though. His great redmeat announcements to stave this off were pure hogwash too.
He needs Howarts to help him out not bloody hogwash. It would be laughable were it not possible that his fall could bring remainers or Marxists into power.
sadly what happens within the boundaries of number ten are not bound by the covid laws, hence he broke no laws, unlike the opposition party leader...
I have said this before, I know it wasn't right all these "work meetings" but I really don't want Boris to go the alternative is unthinkable.
i can just imagine all the remainers figiting where they sit, ready to re-enter the confusion [to them]
I am a Boris supporter.. I really hope he pulls this off..
He is the best we have.. and , surprisingly, he has that 'something' that others do not..
But, he has to stop playing the buffoon.. It won't wash forever..
Quote from: Scrumpy on January 19, 2022, 10:31:05 AM
surprisingly, he has that 'something' that others do not..
He does indeed. The only argument is whether that is an advantage or disadvantage in a PM.
If everyone that broke Covid Regulations were fined or taken to Court hundreds of thousands would or could have been taken to task but most of them would not get sacked or pilloried by the press day after day after day, nor would the Police investigate or take action against them retrospectively after the event.
Boris has broken them according to some , but his main accuser in the nasty little man Cummings who is liar and probably aided and abetted by someone who still works in No10 or possibly even a Tory MP.
I am no fan of Boris but he is the best on offer at the moment , would any of you enjoyed having to make some very serious decisions since Covid arrived , whilst still trying to keep the country going, the economy etc etc its obvious the man is tired very tired .
It appears there is light at the end of the tunnel IMO so its a case of the Devil I know than one I don't know wanting to get the keys to No 10 in all this nonsense
Quote from: Wandering Walter on January 19, 2022, 10:57:50 AM
If everyone that broke Covid Regulations were fined or taken to Court hundreds of thousands would or could have been taken to task but most of them would not get sacked or pilloried by the press day after day after day, nor would the Police investigate or take action against them retrospectively after the event.
Indeed so but there is one big difference. Those people didn't introduce those regulations or stand at a lectern addressing the nation telling us that those regulions were essential for public health, pumping public money into some of the businesses they would inevitably damage and telling us that they would protect the NHS.
Unlike you I think that the only thing they did achieve efficiently was depleting the public funds. This is why I fail to understand why you defend him.
Either breaking those regulations would cause serious harm or they were a pile of baloney in the first place. You can't have it both ways.
Maybe you will say, as does Boris, but this was a work event and so not covered by the regulations then I have a question - who told the virus that so it would know not to infect anybody?
I agree he all other Politicians the so called good and the great the liberal elite should set a good example but did all of them do that ? I suspect not
Which of the other politicians did the things Boris did?
Fill the office of PM
Set the regulations
Stand at a lectern telling us how important they were?
Blatently break the spirit and probably the letter of them.
Dominic Cummings is on a mission.. Nasty. nasty.. sneaky man..
I 100% agree on that. Doesn't alter my other opinion though.
other opinion?????
how many are you allowed
or should it be aloud... :Help:
Two different subjects.
1 Cummings is a scumbag
2 Boris is a liar who ignored his own rules
Clear?
If Boris were honourable he would resign but
1 he is a politician
2 he is Boris
so do you think it is in Englands best interests that he should....resign?
I'll pass on that. The problem is what would we get in his place. I think he'll survive until after the upcoming council elections. The verdict of the public will be given and he'll either get taken down or keep on buffooning his way on.
If, he gets voted back in as PM, even after all the lies and nonsense, there will be no holding him. :nooo: He'll think he's invincible, and can do/say whatever he likes without any comeback. :downvote: Not a good thing in my book. :worried:
Dominic Grieve has already crawled out of the woodwork, as has Jeremy Hunt.
Better the devil you know !
After Boris's poor performance on ITV yesterday when interviewed by
Beth Rigby he was a new man today., at PM's question time. His old boisterous self.
Even if 58 letters go in I bet he easily survives the
following vote of no confidence, UNLESS it is proved beyond any doubt he lied to Parliament.
Beth Rigby ? that's great having a rule breaker questioning a rule breaker on the rules. :rolleyes:
:grin: :grin:
Quote from: Flying Bomb on January 19, 2022, 03:02:44 PM
After Boris's poor performance on ITV yesterday when interviewed by
Beth Rigby he was a new man today., at PM's question time. His old boisterous self.
Even if 58 letters go in I bet he easily survives the
following vote of no confidence, UNLESS it is proved beyond any doubt he lied to Parliament.
The investigation into what has gone on at No 10 and if Boris lied will be known, if he is proved to be a liar he should step down if he does or not is another matter which his Party will have to deal with ASAP ,
As for Politicians in General I think the term is " Economical with the Truth " or duck the question completely change the subject,
All things they need a good slap for. :nooo:
Yes a dam good one , at least Boris does not support Extreme Muslim Terrorist as the previous leader of the opposition
Quote from: Alex on January 19, 2022, 03:22:27 PM
Beth Rigby ? that's great having a rule breaker questioning a rule breaker on the rules. :rolleyes:
That may be so, but she gave him a very strong grilling.
She made him look like a naughty boy.. and he hung his head in embarrassment..
I actually watched PM's question time yesterday for a change , I thought Boris came out on top all the opposition and SNP came up was the same
accusation and the same rant resign
He lives to fight another day.. I am pleased about that..
Quote from: Flying Bomb on January 19, 2022, 03:02:44 PM
After Boris's poor performance on ITV yesterday when interviewed by
Beth Rigby he was a new man today., at PM's question time. His old boisterous self.
/quote]
Amazing what a couple of lines'll do for one's self-confidence..
He is not out of the woods yet , it will depend what the outcome of the investigation is
... and if he survives that the council election results.
I strongly suspect that he reckons lifting all covid restrictions next week may save his bacon. He needs to pull a rather good rabbit from his hat to lead the Tories into the next election.
Does everybody really think that the topic foremost in everyone's minds is garden parties and masks ? It's not in mine :rolleyes:
I think and hope that he will pull it out of the hat..
.. and I also think that Trump will return..
He does face some stiff competition in Biden though :rolleyes:
TBH I thought they'd have wheeled Sleepy Joe off to the care home well before now.
Quote from: Alex on January 20, 2022, 01:21:57 PM
Does everybody really think that the topic foremost in everyone's minds is garden parties and masks ? It's not in mine :rolleyes:
Ther is a bit of a subliminal message in there - why are you pestering me about rules that no longer even exist.
i think at some point this year he might retire on ill health, leaving the USA with its first lady President.
He wasn't exactly the full shilling when he got the job.
If he applied for a job in B&Q as a greeter they'd turn him down and he is supposed to be leader of the free world.
Quote from: klondike on January 20, 2022, 01:33:03 PM
Ther is a bit of a subliminal message in there - why are you pestering me about rules that no longer even exist.
Not quite ! :cool: :cool:
It doesn't work for me to be honest. My gripe is the blatant lying and ludicrous excuses. The bloke is our PM so why couldn't he have just put his hands up right from the start and apologise. Had he done so this would be over and done with by now.
So you think this is a more important topic than the Government's failure to handle the relentless stream of young men arriving on our shores ?
No. They do bugger all about that either though.
Boris is the same old Boris we voted for, so nothing as changed. Hugh
i feel somewhat aprehensive about the posturing about the Ukrain.... the US president ellect has dark history with that part of the world, i thoink his son might have been the instigator for the Ukraining gas theft?
plus i hope Boris has the balls to remind the yank about their reply to our request for refuelling during our problems in the south atlantic, when they decide to buildup their bombers in jolly old England !!!
Quote from: crabbyob on January 21, 2022, 09:39:15 AM
i feel somewhat aprehensive about the posturing about the Ukrain.... the US president ellect has dark history with that part of the world, i thoink his son might have been the instigator for the Ukraining gas theft?
Yes I think I read something along those lines. He is a bit more than President elect now though he is POTUS may the Lord help us or Odin or any of them come to that. Every little helps.
Quote from: Alex on January 20, 2022, 02:31:19 PM
So you think this is a more important topic than the Government's failure to handle the relentless stream of young men arriving on our shores ?
That's my main concern too, that and the cost of living hikes. Bugger the garden parties, they could have partied and Hokeycokeyed all night up and down Downing Street and I wouldn't care so long as they put a stop to the invasion.
Just a question, why are we so concerned about Russia invading Ukraine when our shores are being invaded every day? makes no sense to me. Maybe if Putin tells Ukraine the Russians needs asylum and are being persecuted they are free to walk in, seems to be how it works?
Quote from: Jacqueline on January 21, 2022, 10:15:44 AM
Just a question, why are we so concerned about Russia invading Ukraine when our shores are being invaded every day? makes no sense to me. Maybe if Putin tells Ukraine the Russians needs asylum and are being persecuted they are free to walk in, seems to be how it works?
Good point Jacq :upvote:
It is a point but I'm not 100% sure an entirely good one. I think Putin invading Ukraine has the potential to cause us more harm than hundreds crossing the channel daily. If "they" are to be believed then all that is happening is those who were smuggling themselves into lorries and potentially dieng are now getting into dinghies instead and potentially dieing instead. What is needed is to reduce the incentive to come here. How do we do that? I have no real idea.
A touch of irony from Jacq :grin:
I agree with her. Why ARE we up in arms about Russia invading another country ? Why can't we keep our noses out - the Germans are, they have gas reasons of course, but I don't see the French sending weapons to Ukraine or anyone else for that matter - or have I missed something ?.
I imagine if they do our glorious leaders will be poking their noses in as usual and making the world a more dangerous place.
i just hope when the yanks call, he tells them we will supply the planes this time, and they can supply the body-bags... friendly fire my ass... we dont want to be withing a hundred miles of anywhere the yanks are bombing...