I know we all suffer minor lapses in memory and concentration but I mean more subtle changes in one's thinking that are more difficult to express, perhaps more personal. Slight confusion at times, unsure about things one is normally unthinkingly confident of.. Or is it just me?.. cos I'm turning into my mother!
It's the thing that really worries me. I check three of my bank accounts every day (number four just once a week, it has very little activity) and occasionally I will sit there unable to remember the log-in details. So far the problem has never lasted for more than a few seconds, but who knows?
The traditional'why have I come into this room?' Experience is very common
Mike
Keep the mind VERY active everyday.
The odd, "Why have I come into this room?" is OK as we age.
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry ! :grin:
Quote from: zoony on March 10, 2022, 12:17:28 AM
I know we all suffer minor lapses in memory and concentration but I mean more subtle changes in one's thinking that are more difficult to express, perhaps more personal. Slight confusion at times, unsure about things one is normally unthinkingly confident of.. Or is it just me?.. cos I'm turning into my mother!
As I have already mentioned (see, I didn't forget), I had lunch with some friends the other day. We hadn't met up for ages because of the virus and they were saying they now have problems like this.
I suggested it may be because we have all had a difficult couple of years but they didn't think that was the cause.
Quote from: Flying Bomb on March 10, 2022, 05:19:43 AM
Keep the mind VERY active everyday.
The odd, "Why have I come into this room?" is OK as we age.
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry ! :grin:
[2090]
I don't worry about getting dementia.
I just forget all about it ! :grin:
Quote from: Flying Bomb on March 10, 2022, 05:19:43 AM
Keep the mind VERY active everyday.
The odd, "Why have I come into this room?" is OK as we age.
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry ! :grin:
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry. :grin: :grin: :grin:
Technology panics me.. I try so hard to remember what I am told.. Never been good at dates.
I am pretty good at day to day things..
When the young forget it is put down to busy minds.. When us older ones forget they put it down to our age..
On Monday I thought it was Sunday.. I always have pen and paper at hand..
Quote from: Flying Bomb on March 10, 2022, 05:19:43 AM
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry ! :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
That's a relief.
Quote from: Flying Bomb on March 10, 2022, 05:19:43 AM
It's when you can't remember where the room is one should worry ! :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
That's a relief.
Lost my Dad to Dementia a few years ago. Horrible disease.
I fotget things quite a lot - and immeditately after deciding to do them. I think "Right I'll do that but just tale this cup into the kitchen." Then it goes out of my head once in the kitchen! I was told that this is normal. If you remember that you've forgotten - you're ok. If you get what I mean :grin:
Yes, my mum had dementia too.
A bit like Scrumpy, I keep a notebook and pencil in the kitchen and if we are running low on anything, in theory it is supposed to go on the list. In reality, I am more likely to remember.
Quote from: klondike on March 10, 2022, 09:05:18 AM
:grin: :grin: :grin:
That's a relief.
Quote from: klondike on March 10, 2022, 09:28:04 AM
:grin: :grin: :grin:
That's a relief.
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I often think.. I'll do THAT now... So, I head towards what I am going to do..
I often don't get there..
I know that feeling, as well
Mike
the drive from Doncaster to Barn Hill in Cambridge is the only drive i dont need sat Nav for, i get on the motorway at Donny and stay on it till i get to the Huntingdon bypass.... then one day the bypass was blocked off.. i actually panicked, eventually i turned off the motorway and parked up, and just sat there, then i took the window down and took deep breaths, then got my phone out, i dont know why, then i remembered Google maps typed in the post code, and off i went, then it started to rain and i couldnt reamember how to close the window...lol... i'd had an episode... of what i dont know, but i had to drive an extra forty odd miles...
Then I couldn't remember how to close the window...
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: That's the best laugh I've had this week..
just wait till your really old, all those bloody buttons, while consentrating on driving, my god...
now i have a different car with even more gadgets, its not easy being me you know...
My son had a 4x4 and got fed up not being able to fill up in one go with the £99 pump limit. He got an electric car instead. Double bonus. With all the smarts it can pretty much drive itself and his fuel cost is about ¼ of what it was.
Quote from: crabbyob on March 10, 2022, 11:29:32 AM
just wait till your really old, all those bloody buttons, while consentrating on driving, my god...
now i have a different car with even more gadgets, its not easy being me you know...
I was driving back from Crawley.. Something I can do with my eyes closed.! I too came up against a 'road closed' sign.. I too panicked.. but told myself to just 'get on with it'..
With 'confidence' I carried on driving..
A couple of round-a-bouts later I found myself on the perimeter road of Gatwick Airport..
Security .. were very kind.. :grin:
.. and I have just found myself standing (confused) in the shed with a bucket that I was going to fill with water.. The water tap is to the right of the shed..!!
You see, the shed door was open so I went in..!! :grin: :grin:
Watch out - there might be aliens
Mike
It does worry me when using the computer, that very familiar pathways can suddenly leave me clueless half-way through as to what to do next! [2040] Thankfully it's very temporary.. at the moment!
I have the same problem
I completely lose words I am well aware of. I went through a spell of losing the word cormorant. I ended up just calling them the C bird. Don't do that one now but do with other words from time to time.
Just a 'blip' Zoony..
It doesn't only happen to those with clever minds who know exactly what they are doing (like you) .. It also happens to those who are not so clever (like me)...
It will pass. Try not to worry so much.. It only makes things worse.. x
One thing is certain. None of us are getting out of this thing alive!
Quote from: klondike on March 10, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
I completely lose words I am well aware of. I went through a spell of losing the word cormorant. I ended up just calling them the C bird. Don't do that one now but do with other words from time to time.
I too lose words from time to time.. Sometimes just simple words that I should know.. If my family are near they will put me right.. If I'm on my own I replace the missing word with a swear one..It works..
Quote from: -Oy- on March 10, 2022, 07:38:19 PM
One thing is certain. None of us are getting out of this thing alive!
True.
[automatically pruned due to age]
word blindness strikes me quite often
Cassandra - that is so sad.
Mike
Quote from: zoony on March 10, 2022, 06:35:20 PM
It does worry me when using the computer, that very familiar pathways can suddenly leave me clueless half-way through as to what to do next! [2040] Thankfully it's very temporary.. at the moment!
I have a theory that our minds are like a computers RAM memory. As time goes by, the RAM
(random access memory) upstairs becomes full and hence I forget something, as the facility is temporarily overloaded. At other times the ROM
(read only memory only) blips, perhaps for the same reason.
I've got a few vehicles and sometimes forget what button is where and what it does. Except for the 'old reliable' 1958 car. Everything in it is so simple especially with digital upgrades to ignition and fuel injection! :smiley:
Alternatively I can still recite many poems of considerable length word perfect, but some days can't remember the date?
An old friend of mine who was once one of England's premier Test Batsmen and slip fielders describes these passages as '
neuro - rhythm' imbalances and says he definitely knew as soon as he 'took strike' at the wicket what sort of day he was going to have?
I think as long as we are able to reason the perception of these contrasts then hopefully things are OK. An old professional adversary and dear friend of mine had a mind like a razor, one wrong step in a case and he'd shred you.
I saw him just before leaving the UK. Sitting alone in his room, staring blankly out the window, he'd not eaten a wrapped chocolate bar because he didn't recognise what it was, nor to whom he was speaking, it was his 80th birthday. I'm three years behind him and at the same age I must say the signs were very prevalent. Its a lottery I must conjecture, only with closer odds than we'd like to consider ...
Quote from: klondike on March 10, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
I completely lose words I am well aware of. I went through a spell of losing the word cormorant. I ended up just calling them the C bird. Don't do that one now but do with other words from time to time.
A bane of my life is losing words. That and short-term memory loss..
Quote from: Cassandra on March 10, 2022, 09:05:02 PM
I have a theory that our minds are like a computers RAM memory. As time goes by, the RAM (random access memory) upstairs becomes full and hence I forget something, as the facility is temporarily overloaded. At other times the ROM (read only memory only) blips, perhaps for the same reason.
I've got a few vehicles and sometimes forget what button is where and what it does. Except for the 'old reliable' 1958 car. Everything in it is so simple especially with digital upgrades to ignition and fuel injection! :smiley:
Alternatively I can still recite many poems of considerable length word perfect, but some days can't remember the date?
An old friend of mine who was once one of England's premier Test Batsmen and slip fielders describes these passages as 'neuro - rhythm' imbalances and says he definitely knew as soon as he 'took strike' at the wicket what sort of day he was going to have?
I think as long as we are able to reason the perception of these contrasts then hopefully things are OK. An old professional adversary and dear friend of mine had a mind like a razor, one wrong step in a case and he'd shred you.
I saw him just before leaving the UK. Sitting alone in his room, staring blankly out the window, he'd not eaten a wrapped chocolate bar because he didn't recognise what it was, nor to whom he was speaking, it was his 80th birthday. I'm three years behind him and at the same age I must say the signs were very prevalent. Its a lottery I must conjecture, only with closer odds than we'd like to consider ...
I certainly agree with the RAM bit getting filled up after so many years. Not a pleasant thought but what fills me with dread is to consider the years ahead spent alone.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on March 10, 2022, 09:01:04 PM
word blindness strikes me quite often
Cassandra - that is so sad.
Mike
Yes Mike, sometimes I give up and seek to consort the 'online' Thesaurus, usually just as I click on it's tab, the mind clears and reveals it's prize. Words were and still are my world and this failure upsets me more than other failings.
My mother and father possessed great clarity of mind to the end and in my mothers case lived till she was 94. Her sister went on to four months before 3 figures. However over the last 5 years she deteriorated sharply and ended up on 'good' days thinking I was her late brother. A cruel game, but at least in closing they are like birds born into captivity, ignorant of their loss.
Short term is a bugbear. Just finished watching a film on Netflix and I couldn't remember what it was called! Had to backtrack
Mike
A friend, ten years younger than me, a one time work colleague and a very bright man, has been little more than a vegetable for about seven years now. His wife, with help, cares for him at home. Must be heartbreaking
Mike
Quote from: zoony on March 10, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
I certainly agree with the RAM bit getting filled up after so many years. Not a pleasant thought but what fills me with dread is to consider the years ahead alone.
Yes I coalesce completely Mike, perhaps thats why I surround myself with animals now :hmm:
When young, Fleur used to dash about as though demented - but that was rather different!
How are you and the doggies coping with a Yanky winter?
Mike
Quote from: Michael Rolls on March 10, 2022, 09:27:48 PM
When young, Fleur used to dash about as though demented - but that was rather different!
How are you and the doggies coping with a Yanky winter?
Mike
I've got them both really warm coats. Albert, being a hardy Scot doesn't seem bothered, he's young and loves it all, barrelling around on his long lead. The little one is more reserved and enjoys returning to the little sling, across chest carrier, under Dad's coat after a short trot. It gets very cold at night - just now, 5pm its minus 3c. However most modern homes here are brilliantly insulated, being wood framed and with the energy being contrastingly cheap, even now I can have the controls at 20c, with the log fire in the background in the evening and be very comfortable. The Dogs get so close to it, but have to back off as the evening progresses, ending up under the Duvet at night! Most mornings at this time, there's been light snow overnight and it's very beautiful. Because the locals are used to it they have the facilities and the mind set to accept the snow and the temperatures. You have to be aware though. For example I need to be watchful drawing in sharp breaths, first thing it can be very painful and I'm careful to wear special spiked boots too.
Overall though it's wonderful, Ive always enjoyed snowy climes.
Sounds like your fast becoming a local Cass. How are the horses? Did you get them a big beach ball?
Cass, I'm curious. Are you very far from Petosky?
I said I was turning into my mother? Well I wasn't really joking.. I'm becoming ever-more grumpy and humourless which are characteristics in my family.. Not a good feeling..
think of Brian - surely that would be enough to give anyone a laugh
Mike 😁😁😁
My mum knew that one of my daughters had children but she didn't know which one. The only thing that she was sure of was that my (second) husband was the father!
Looking after her was a nightmare and I remember going round to her house for the third time one day and a neighbour of hers, who knew that because she had been out gardening, said that my mother had come out looking for me and said that she hadn't seen me for weeks!
What fills me with dread is to consider the years ahead alone...
The words above written by Zoony says it all..
Being alone and lonely is boring for your brain.. We need something to get up for..
I am willing to have a coffee with anyone on here who needs a (stimulating) brain to chat to.. At an arranged time I will chat on Facetime .. It doesn't have to be a regular thing ,even a one off is fine by me.. Just a suggestion.. Private Message me if interested..
Forget the word stimulating.. typing error..
My mother at 87 was as sharp as a tack and looked after my father, who joined the fairies as she put , ten years earlier. She did a fantastic job of looking after him and they devised strategies when he was lucid to cope. When he was on his last legs due to heart failure, she had a fall and died two days later, leaving me to look after him. Mum had hidden the degree of confusion from me , 'so I didn't worry'.
I had to search the house for his meds, he would take them if he found them, irrespective of when he had taken them before. While hunting, I found £1,100 in cash that Mum has tucked away in various places. He lived for another three weeks after Mum passing , most of which was in hospital after he contracted pneumonia.
When he went into hospital , he told the mental health nurse he had been married for 35 years and his wife would be coming to collect him. She was surprised to learn they had had their 65th anniversary just before she died. The most difficult part was his ' Where's Joan? ' start to each day. Explaining that his wife and partner of 65 years had died was always difficult. After a week of telling him, I discussed it with my daughter. Should I say, she has run off with the milkman , as a change. My daughter was horrified, no, George Clooney, she would have loved that.
Sad, but humorous... :grin: :grin:
I only knew one of my grandmothers. She had both poor health and dementia. She spent her last years in bed at my parents just a few feet from where I sit now in fact. It wasn't nice.
I knew both of my wifes' grandmothers but mostly from visits to care homes.
One was completely away with the fairies and as happy as a sandboy. She kept telling my father in law it was time he got a girlfriend and broke out from the home to roam the street in nightie and slippers at least twice.
The other was entirely compos mentis but unable to walk. She was as miserable as sin from getting stuck in front of a TV with a lot of completely doo lally old women. Her constant refrain was "dont use that chair Lilly (or whatever) sits in it and pees herself.
It's time we had the equivalent of Dignitas here. I'd use it in an instant rather than face either of those womens' final years.
But how might we know it was time.....
we all have bad days, might you feel the bad day was a sign it was time...
the grim reaper will decide when its my time... sooner.... or later...
I think we should have Dignitas here too, but would hope it wouldn't cost £10,000 which I believe is the average cost of a trip to Switzerland. I think you'd know when it was time.
It's a lot more dignified and less messy than the alternatives. I'm wondering whether I should start skeet shooting for instance at some point. That wouldn't cost £10k
no mate.... fishing will keep you in touch wi yer humanity....
Quote from: zoony on March 10, 2022, 10:19:57 PM
Cass, I'm curious. Are you very far from Petosky?
A couple of hundred miles directly north up the M46. Funnily enough I was there just before Xmas. My cousin was 'piloting' an interstate courier plane service before the holidays to help out delivering parcels. Next stop Canada of course, I went with him, to pour the coffee:smiley: it took us about an hour over spectacular country - do you know it?
Quote from: Raven on March 10, 2022, 10:16:03 PM
Sounds like your fast becoming a local Cass. How are the horses? Did you get them a big beach ball?
Hello Raven,
Yes thank you, they
both bang the stable doors morning and evening with them now. Sort of room service alert, very funny and they look so pleased with themselves when it arrives too!
Loads of head nodding and snorting! :cowboy:
Not really.. The band and I were stranded there by an ice-storm a long time ago and I was impressed by the place and people, not to mention exploding trees! There was an old railway bridge over the road somewhere nearby with I LOVE YOU MARY SCHIMINSKY written in large white letters right across it. :grin: ..
Quote from: Cassandra on March 11, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
Hello Raven,
Yes thank you, they both bang the stable doors morning and evening with them now. Sort of room service alert, very funny and they look so pleased with themselves when it arrives too!
Loads of head nodding and snorting! :cowboy:
That's precious! 'D love to see them meet Raven's big Clydes.. :grin:
Quote from: zoony on March 11, 2022, 02:00:53 AM
I said I was turning into my mother? Well I wasn't really joking.. I'm becoming ever-more grumpy and humourless which are characteristics in my family.. Not a good feeling..
I'm getting more like my dad, thankfully he was a delightful eccentric, as he aged, sounding and behaving like more like 'Tinker'
(played so wonderfully by Dudley Sutton) in 'Lovejoy'.
For example he once rung the flat, following a 'huge' day out with all his chums from the Press and Bar.
"Junior" he said, "I've had a bloody marvellous day, haven't a clue where I am, but I'm staying! - put out the cat".
(he didn't have one):wink:
well i hope i am nothing like my father [but sometimes like Zoony see little flashes of him in my behavior]
Well, on the bright side, we all know who our fathers were.
Wrong..!!! I don't.. I've heard rumours but the people who know the truth have long gone..
One good thing though.. I can make him into any character I choose...
I wonder if the same joke being posted by 3 different people within 2 days indicates anything....
:?: :?: :?: klondike.. explain..
i would like to declare my post was first
i would like to....lol... but was it?
Yes.
Either Scrumpy doesn't look at the jokes or has a bit of a short term memory issue...