when reading another thread that mentioned gays and Lesbians, i thought back, i reckon for most of my life i have been aware of some gay man lurking in my periphery.... and i smile trying to remember the conversation in which my Granny mentioned 'Les Beings'... but i cannot ever remember meeting any untill i was in my mid thirties... there are now legions of them.... so that puts them in the middle to late seventies... when did you first meet your Les Being.... actually its not fair using grannys descriptor, because i had quite a few Lebian friends [ I got the club rules changed so they could play Snooker and pool]
I don't know if I ever have - not something which tends to come up in conversations I have held with folk over the years
Mike
perhaps one should get out more.. [2090]
Quote from: crabbyob on January 07, 2022, 10:14:25 AM
i have been aware of some gay man lurking in my periphery....
Where oh where is Phil when he's needed?
I met my first gay man back in the seventies..
We went out together many times.. He was a great friend and still is..
Back in the sixties it wasn't happening so much.. We did have a guy in our group of mates who worked on the cruise liners.. He told some interesting stories and he smelled divine..
Quote from: Michael Rolls on January 07, 2022, 10:16:36 AM
I don't know if I ever have - not something which tends to come up in conversations I have held with folk over the years
Mike
I agree back in those days it was a criminal offence for a man to have sex with another man if caught sent to prison, Turin is a perfect example,
Most of the gay men I've come across are extroverts and can be real fun at a party. Takes all sorts. Live and let live. etc. etc.
I wasn't aware of homosexuals (the word gay infuriates me, my school friend was named Gay, what a bloody nightmare for her now) or lesbians until after I was married. My husband worked with a chap who sung in a band, we used to go and see them quite a lot. One day he was moaning at work about his flatmate who bought home a women, the penny dropped with his fellow workers that he was after this chap himself. I can honestly say that I never knew such people existed before that and now its an epidemic.
I shall never get my head around men marrying men and women the same, it is not equal to marriage between a man and women. When I was at school all us kids would have laughed and been revolted at the very idea if we had known about such things. I wouldn't want to go back to the old days of sending them to jail that was cruel, they are free to do what they like as it is all lawful, any perversion goes these days, but please don't tell me they are as "normal" as hetrosexuals they 'ant.
The first lesbian I encountered was in work when I was about 19, she always used to stand really close when talking to you. First gay was probably a hairdresser I had - not "had" had - if you know what I mean :grin:
My present hairdresser is also gay and I've known him for about 30 years. His husband is a lovely man too and was previously married to a woman, he has 2 children from that marriage. I've met up with them socially too, a great couple who do an awful lot for charity.
If my husband went off with another man or even got together with another man after we had parted, I would be mortified, just to know he preferred a hairy bloke to me would be the biggest kick in the teeth anyone could ever do to me, I would prefer him to be a serial womaniser!!!
Who knows what goes on behind closed doors.. !
I wouldn't care if my husband had left me for a gay man.. The kick in the teeth would be that I had dated this other guy at some point..!
Quote from: klondike on January 07, 2022, 11:42:54 AM
Most of the gay men I've come across are extroverts and can be real fun at a party. Takes all sorts. Live and let live. etc. etc.
erm you might want to rephrase that one.. :nooo:
Not at all sweetie :smiley:
Quote from: klondike on January 07, 2022, 11:42:54 AM
Most of the gay men I've come across are extroverts and can be real fun at a party. Takes all sorts. Live and let live. etc. etc.
I agree
i honestly have no problem with couples loving each other...But... and there will alway be one... i cant believe that the law and in some cases the Church recognises them in marriage... then a few weeks ago there was a lady being interviewed on TV demanding that her and her 'Wife' be allowed equal amounts of sessions in being treated to have a child..... at present they are 'only' allowed six sessions whereas hetro couples get twelve... each session costing several thousand pound a session...
The whole thing about men with men or women with women gives me the creeps. Sorry if that offends but that's how it affects me.
I always thought it was Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve. :ugh:
Quote from: crabbyob on January 07, 2022, 12:52:23 PM
i honestly have no problem with couples loving each other...But... and there will alway be one... i cant believe that the law and in some cases the Church recognises them in marriage... then a few weeks ago there was a lady being interviewed on TV demanding that her and her 'Wife' be allowed equal amounts of sessions in being treated to have a child..... at present they are 'only' allowed six sessions whereas hetro couples get twelve... each session costing several thousand pound a session...
Simple sex education - 1 man and 1 woman = baby. 2 men can not make a baby nor can 2 women, so they need the opposite sex to create one. They are so busy teaching kids perversions in the sex education classes, they forget to teach them basics.
Hetrosexual couples needing IVF have problems conceiving. Lesbians could easy go out close their eyes, and get knocked up by a bloke on a night out in town, why give them costly IVF?
Quote from: Raven on January 07, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
The whole thing about men with men or women with women gives me the creeps.
True enough from a personal preference viewpoint. It just shows that your head is wired up in the majority way. All I'm saying is that as people you meet rather than potential sex partners they can be and often are quite good fun. They can't help their wiring any more than you can.
What I really can't figure out is why there are so many. It's not as if it can be an hereditary thing.
Seems to me it's a fashion thing. Gay is more interesting........Not. :yell:
Nothing new. As Basil Fawlty said the (ancient) Greeks invented it but I expect it was even earlier.
QuoteSimple sex education - 1 man and 1 woman = baby. 2 men can not make a baby nor can 2 women, so they need the opposite sex to create one.
Taxes paid by people who chose other lifestyles (single/gay/lesbian/etc) subsidise hetrosexual couples in their reproductive act and prop up that over rated institution known as "the family".
Quote from: klondike on January 07, 2022, 01:03:38 PM
What I really can't figure out is why there are so many. It's not as if it can be an hereditary thing.
Maybe it's a gay virus thing. :smiley:
I can accept two women cuddling/kissing etc etc but two men gives me the creeps.
What gays do in the privacy of their own home is none of my business or concern. I find the sight of them kissing to be as unappealing as a hetro sexual couple.
What ever happened to privacy?
If two women are happy together and two men make each other happy.. So be it..
They don't leave children behind for others to pick up the cost tab.. Which ,sadly, happens all too frequently when it is a man/woman marriage/partnership..
Some do. See other posts about IVF for lesbian couples.
Scrumpy, you obviously missed the post about the ladies demanding similar IVS treatment to married couples... they have crossed that line of harming noone else, you know how cruel kids can be, just imagine if your dad was another woman?
just imagine if your dad was another woman
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: I'm struggling with that..
You'd struggle more if your mum was a bloke I expect. :rolleyes:
no breast feeding problems there then, nowt to stop the bloke getting them out in public.. :yell:
From the sadness read in the news recently of child abuse I am sure these same sex (parents) give much happiness/ security to their children..
Quote from: klondike on January 07, 2022, 10:39:11 AM
Where oh where is Phil when he's needed?
I just got your email pushed to my phone so I've update the forum bookmark & logged in.
I've always kept my periphery well out of sight.
I wonder if when lesbians have a falling out, is it because they've rubbed each other up the wrong way :grin:
We can always rely on you for such insights Phil :grin:
Quote from: klondike on January 09, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
We can always rely on you for such insights Phil :grin:
Yes, I like to try & be as reliable as I can in the circumstances. :grin:
Quote from: Diasi on January 09, 2022, 12:33:53 PM
I wonder if when lesbians have a falling out, is it because they've rubbed each other up the wrong way :grin:
.. or when gays have a falling out they don't see eye to eye.. !!
Scrumpy is right in that the so called "nuclear family" can be a dark place for children who are physically and/or psychologically abused. There is no reason why same sex marriages are any better or worse than hetrosexual marriages at parenting children.
Probably get better as it gets more common but children can be very cruel and pick on anybody slightly different so those with gay parents may suffer. Just as those do whose brothers and/or sisters have the same father as them and who still lives with them.
Quote from: klondike on January 09, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
Probably get better as it gets more common but children can be very cruel and pick on anybody slightly different so those with gay parents may suffer. Just as those do whose brothers and/or sisters have the same father as them and who still lives with them.
I've known a few gay men in my time, some as friends some just in passing and in my opinion if any parents are going to detect a problem and talk to their child about it, it's them. Possibly over-dramatize the situation :grin: but will know how to handle it.