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Quote from: Michael Rolls on Yesterday at 07:34:17 PMI have always decried the idiocy of 'net zero'. Unless we are willing to accept a considerable reduction in our quality of life it just can't happen. My current hybrid - bought under duress because Ford had discontinued what I actually wanted, a petrol 5 door Mondeo - is OK, but I am confident when it comes to change it will, in real terms, get a good bit less for trade-in than of yore, so much so that I am going to keep it for longer than usual (I normally change before the MOT is due) and smile grimly at what I am offered.
No idea why that appeared twice!

I suppose that one advantage of hybrids is that when the batteries do die a death, at least we'd still have the petrol engine to keep it going.
Yes, the inclusion of batteries and an electric motor can make the cars more 'economical' to drive, but when the batteries do give up, we'd be driving around carrying an unnecessary heavy load and consequently using more petrol.
That's what put me off buying a hybrid, and the place where we bought our car three years ago was pushing them even then.

I have always decried the idiocy of 'net zero'. Unless we are willing to accept a considerable reduction in our quality of life it just can't happen. My current hybrid - bought under duress because Ford had discontinued what I actually wanted, a petrol 5 door Mondeo - is OK, but I am confident when it comes to change it will, in real terms, get a good bit less for trade-in than of yore, so much so that I am going to keep it for longer than usual (I normally change before the MOT is due) and smile grimly at what I am offered.
No idea why that appeared twice!

Quote from: Ashy on Yesterday at 07:19:40 PMTechnically if they are selling more than are being scrapped or exported, then EVs are becoming more popular. just that the initial enthusiasm for the product may have declined.

Not necessarily the case.  One has to consider the growth rate of new drivers in comparison with the rate of purchase of EV's.

But, even having said that, you might still be right.

Quote from: Ashy on Yesterday at 07:19:40 PMTechnically if they are selling more than are being scrapped or exported, then EVs are becoming more popular. just that the initial enthusiasm for the product may have declined.

Well, it's a free country (at least for now).  If people want to buy them, they can do so.  I just hope they think carefully about it first.

Incidentally, as I was walking down to the middle of our 'village' I once again remarked to the wife that I have still never seen anyone, not a single person, using the charging machines in the car park.
I think it is completely logical not to do so, because there are only a few shops here and why would anyone put their car on to charge, which would take quite a long time, when there's no other reason to stay here for that long.

The other thing is that these two machines have effectively taken over the space of four or five parking spaces.  I bet they'll be gone next year!

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Technically if they are selling more than are being scrapped or exported, then EVs are becoming more popular. just that the initial enthusiasm for the product may have declined.

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Quote from: klondike on May 17, 2024, 10:31:52 AMWhat Rees-Mogg wants is reform of the Tory party. The grass roots are doubtless behind him but the Parliamentary party is now beyond redemption. My hope is for a total wipeout. Let the grass roots see that the brand has sunk lower than Ratners. That way there is an outside chance of either a reformed Tory party or maybe just Reform, Either way expect Socialism for the rest of your days now I fear.

Indeed, I've resigned myself to departing under a Labour government.

Quote from: JBR on Yesterday at 06:12:45 PMTrue.
Despite the ongoing assurances that Reform will never form a government, either now or in years to come, that is how I shall certainly vote.
And damn the consequences!  My conscience is clear.

This is my view as well.

But we will be able to rubbish whatever the next Parliament, government & opposition, does as we didn't vote for it.

True.
Despite the ongoing assurances that Reform will never form a government, either now or in years to come, that is how I shall certainly vote.
And damn the consequences!  My conscience is clear.