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Title: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Raven on March 16, 2023, 10:18:42 AM
Like it or not (I don't) it's here. Do you fear it or will you embrace it?

BBC News - Chat GPT4: Is the world prepared for the coming AI storm?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64967627
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Jacqueline on March 16, 2023, 10:43:47 AM
It frightens the life out of me what these things are capable of.  I hate the automated machines we are forced to use in supermarkets and banks, even worse is getting through the automated voices when you want to contact a company with a query, i.e a problem I had with my Barclaycard, it took me ages to get to a person, I was screaming at the "voice" in the end, I want a live person!! I find speaking to these things so stressful and it is only going to get worse.  Remember the film Terminator? frightening.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Raven on March 16, 2023, 10:50:47 AM
Yes I remember, it bothered me a lot at the time. Then the film "I Robot" came out and that really un-nerved me, it was just too close for comfort.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: klondike on March 16, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
It's a left wing biased chat bot. It can't do anything other than reply to questions. Not much different from a smart speaker which have been around for years and they haven't started on a program of world domination. At least not yet.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Diasi on March 16, 2023, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: klondike on March 16, 2023, 12:08:04 PMIt's a left wing biased chat bot. It can't do anything other than reply to questions. Not much different from a smart speaker which have been around for years and they haven't started on a program of world domination. At least not yet.
Alexa can be a naughty girl.

When I ask her to turn on my electric blanket she asks me if I'd like her to keep me warm instead.

I'll leave her even naughtier reply to "Alexa, turn on the bathroom light" to your imagination.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Raven on March 16, 2023, 12:34:09 PM
I won't even have one of those Alexa things in the house. It's not big enough for two females. [1150]

But in all seriousness, I'm not at all ready to start to trust anything like that. Slowly, Slowly, and before you know it, they've taken over and your not the one in charge anymore. NO THANKYOU, Not for me.  :yell:
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Jacqueline on March 16, 2023, 12:35:49 PM
I couldn't stand one of those Alexa things, I am perfectly capable of doing things for myself.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: klondike on March 16, 2023, 12:39:11 PM
I haven't installed any home automation. I did get an air quality monitor as I wondered if the diesel fumes from the main road were evident inside. It seems they aren't but the thing does tell me about poor air quality whenever anything gets cooked or if you use any solvents. You get a high VOC level (volatile organic chemicals). It goes off after other events too on occasion and I renamed in honour of that aspect of its vigilance so keeping me safe. It can also give temperature alerts and reports through Alexa.

https://youtube.com/shorts/XlHL49Vmz6o
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Alex on March 16, 2023, 02:16:10 PM
There is a Alexa button on my Firestick, but haven't used it much.   Yesterday I went for petrol and it was so busy only the ' pay at pump ' was available so I thought I've got no choice here.  The fella was talking to me over the tannoy, couldn't make out what he was saying ! I now know your card has to go in first.  It came up as £120 when my petrol was only 30 quid, but it gets better I pressed YES for a receipt and it gave me somebody else's.

The kiosk fella was ready for me, obviously must have heard my effing and jeffing to myself  :grin:  :grin:  All ok but I won't use one again.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: klondike on March 16, 2023, 02:41:56 PM
Yes the £120 is annoying. 

I use my Chase debit card now rather than my CC for most purchases as it pays 1% cashback. Most of my money is kept in the linked savings account and I just transfer enough over for the day's purchases as the savings account pays higher interest. That is rarely £120. I had a pay at pump decline the card and had to go in and pay using the same card with no problem. I saw a declined £120 on the account which was the pump testing I could pay the maximum it would allow. I just go in now but pay at pump is quicker.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Raven on March 16, 2023, 03:48:41 PM
This excess taken off your card by garages could be a whole new thread. It's all over FB at the moment about how long it takes them to return the money they took. Left some poor guy in a real mess with no cash to buy his messages for the family. :wtf:
It should be returned at once, as soon as the sale of fuel is complete.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Diasi on March 16, 2023, 04:42:05 PM
I'd never pay at the pump, for the same reason I'll never use an ATM that isn't inside a bank or a shop.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 16, 2023, 05:08:23 PM
would not dream of paying at the pump, and when a station on a motorway tried to make me, I really threw them by pretending that I couldn't speak English and spoke to them in French (only time the bloody language has really been useful other than in France!)
Mike
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: klondike on March 16, 2023, 05:10:26 PM
What reason is that Phil? I've paid at the pump ever since the option became available and never had a problem other than this latest annoyance which wouldn't matter to me had I been using a credit card.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 16, 2023, 05:13:54 PM
I don't trust any card transaction that isn't conducted in a retail situation right under my eagle eyes!
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Diasi on March 16, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
I don't have my cards in my hand when I'm outside.

Anyway I use NFC on my phone & I don't think contactless is used at pumps.

Tesco say their pumps won't accept contactless.

All to save a couple of minutes in a kiosk.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Jacqueline on March 16, 2023, 05:41:07 PM
Everything these days is to make your life more difficult.  I would never put my card in a petrol pump especially after what you guys have said about the £120.  

The latest thing is Ceridigion is car parks only take card payments no cash, I certainly wouldn't chance that either after some of the problems I have had in the past with those machines.
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 16, 2023, 05:56:16 PM
have to agree - it really does seem as though everyone seems to want to think that life should be as complicated as possible for the average Joe on the street
Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Alex on March 16, 2023, 07:25:54 PM
According to my lad they don't actually take out the £120 from your debit card.  I've been on my bank this afo and in the "pending" payments it says Morrisons 29.70.  So that's all that was taken, it's an odd amount as I was getting flustered. :grin:  It was  still my first and last time  :boo: