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#1
Politics / Re: Sadiq Khan
Last post by Cassandra - Today at 03:18:45 PM
He will win by a mile, too many muslims now in London to be countered by the rest. This is why he was installed by Blair, who then imported million of supporters from Pakistan etc, to ensure his residence until he decides to relinquish it to 'Khan 2'.

Additionally the gathering of 'proxy postal votes' at many mosques is a well known activity today, where this sphere of influence is an established social doctrine.

Eventually this profile will convert the whole of the the UK to the paradigm of Islamic Sharia Law. Khan is the prototype Caliph for the UK and eventually Europe.
#2
General Discussion / Re: Another Tony Martin?
Last post by Cassandra - Today at 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: Diasi on Today at 09:15:29 AMOne of the intruders has been charged with aggravated burglary.

A person is guilty of aggravated burglary if he commits any burglary and at the time has with him any firearm or imitation firearm, any weapon of offence, or any explosive; and for this purpose—
"firearm" includes an airgun or air pistol, and "imitation firearm" means anything which has the appearance of being a firearm, whether capable of being discharged or not; and
"weapon of offence" means any article made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use.

Which, basically, means they went prepared & intending to inflict physical violence on the occupants of the farm.

Section 3(1) of the Criminal Law Act 1967 states that:

"any person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in preventing a crime or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large."

Reasonable force can be adopted to "prevent a crime".

Also subsection 5, of Section 76 refers to intoxication (another case).

Of course all English Law is subsidiary to the Human Rights Act 1998, article 2 of which states that:

"Everyone's right to life shall be protected by law. No-one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law."

"Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of the Article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:

a. In defence of any person from unlawful violence;

b. In order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained;

c. In action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection."

To sum up, in the case referred to if you arrive 'tooled up' to support an act of burglary, you would expect in some cases to be repelled by assisted physical restraint and judges would so instruct jurors to contain this fact within their judgement. Arguably a Farmer's shotgun is a physical repellant. However within all judgements is the facet of 'reasonable force'. In this instance is a farmer owning a shotgun for say wildlife protection and pest control, justified to express this instrument as an item of reasonable force in defence of his person and property when confronted with 'armed' intruders? Herein is the argument for breaching the HRA 1998, however I defended on many occasions where farmers were discharged for the utility of a shotgun in an act of self defence. The law needs clarity and in todays 'washy-wokey' clamour for criminal liberty, the plaudits for clearing up legitimate armed response will never be changed.

The ungodly can fully expect that in 'knocking off a farm' they may encounter an armed response as most farmers own shotguns. I have successfully argued that within this act they compel the farmer to  resort to shooting in response. Sometimes many intruders target their properties and even if only one is armed the farmer is justified in assuming all invaders are similarly equipped.
#3
Politics / Re: Sadiq Khan
Last post by GrannyMac - Today at 02:19:17 PM
It appears he's ahead... :boo:

#4
The Chat Room / Re: The boring thread.....
Last post by GrannyMac - Today at 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on Today at 01:11:37 PMI have done some of the front garden.. Hooray..

Hope your train is running GrannyMac..
Ta Scrumpy.  Now on the second train. Only 5 mins late. Travelling with my grandson to my son's for a couple of days x

Well done 👏 with the garden!
#5
The Chat Room / Re: The boring thread.....
Last post by Michael Rolls - Today at 01:21:08 PM
gentle drizzle
#6
The Chat Room / Re: Lets write a Limerick, one...
Last post by Scrumpy - Today at 01:17:22 PM
Dickie was excited he was off to sunny Spain
He packed his budgie smugglers, and a mac in case of rain
He also packed his Brut and a tin of good old Spam
Airport taxi time and Dickie was off to Birmingham
Didn't he go to Spain then! Oh! what a bloody shame
#7
The Chat Room / Re: The boring thread.....
Last post by Scrumpy - Today at 01:11:37 PM

I have done some of the front garden.. Hooray..

Hope your train is running GrannyMac..
#8
General Discussion / Re: Another Tony Martin?
Last post by Scrumpy - Today at 01:09:25 PM

Of course i would not.. I would hope they would learn how dangerous it was.. 
 
I suppose I could get a catapult or a spud gun.. Wouldn't want to hurt those who break in.. It would upset their Mummy...
#9
The Chat Room / Re: The boring thread.....
Last post by GrannyMac - Today at 12:35:50 PM
Waiting for a train...
#10
General Discussion / Re: Another Tony Martin?
Last post by muddy - Today at 11:18:28 AM
If you had children would you leave a crossbow , a potentially lethal weapon lying about handy enough to use in an unexpected intrusion ?