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Title: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2022, 10:49:03 AM
This is Angela Morabito who came 2nd in the Womens 500 Freestyle, behind transgender swimmer Lia Thomas.  What I don't understand is why there has been no outcry from WOMEN  :waiting:  (Thomas ranked number 462 as a male swimmer, but now ranks number 1 as a female swimmer)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5ttCLTNL/Angela-Moribito.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 11:16:13 AM
I fully support that view Alex. This should never be allowed. They need two new classes for transgenders if they are going to persist with allowing them to compete.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: crabbyob on March 18, 2022, 11:23:31 AM
on the other hand i believe they are very popular in prisions
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2022, 11:48:28 AM
Are there enough trans genders to warrant their own category though ?  I doubt it.

One funny comment was from a woman who sounded British,
the pro trans ' person' was having a go at her when she replied "I'm not a vet but I know what as dog is "   :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Jacqueline on March 18, 2022, 12:09:15 PM
Who cares if there isn't enough of them for a category, they can swim on their bloody own!!!! Woman shouldn't have to compete against men in  women's sport.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 18, 2022, 11:48:28 AM
Are there enough trans genders to warrant their own category though ?  I doubt it.
I'm pretty much certain that there aren't. Tough.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2022, 12:43:19 PM
The winner

(https://i.postimg.cc/wBRQ12c6/winner.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: zoony on March 18, 2022, 01:02:09 PM
Rather apt that he/she's standing in front of a load of balls...
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 01:04:21 PM
Looks like a bloke with long hair.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Scrumpy on March 18, 2022, 01:42:13 PM



That's not a a WINNER.. that is a man who couldn't bear to LOSE...
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Diasi on March 18, 2022, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: klondike on March 18, 2022, 01:04:21 PM
Looks like a bloke with long hair.

That's because it is a bloke with long hair.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 03:23:39 PM
...and missing some bits... :shocked:
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: GrannyMac on March 18, 2022, 07:33:28 PM
Are you sure klondike?

Have a read of this. So much for women's rights. https://www.gbnews.uk/news/hospital-staff-told-police-their-patient-was-not-raped-as-alleged-attacker-was-transgender-despite-cctv-showing-assault-in-ward/250941
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 09:52:38 PM
I think the swimmer had his meat and two veg removed.

I read a story on this person some time back and there are rules on testosterone levels permitted before they can compete. The problem is that even with testosterone levels way below male normal because they went through puberty as a male there are lasting bodily changes that mean they can never compete fairly with women.

The only fair solution imo is a lifetime ban on competition with individuals who went through puberty as females.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 18, 2022, 09:53:10 PM
madness I'm responding to Granny's post, K, not yours
Mike
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 10:05:08 PM
It's all madness imo. I have no problems with them having a sex change if that is what they want but I do have a problem with them competing against women who were born female.

My daughter was a competitive swimmer who made it to national level. That involves a huge amount of work and commitment from the age of 8 onwards both from the swimmer and their parents. Doubtless it is the same for all sports. Why would anybody bother if they then get soundly and unfairly beaten as adults because they will be swimming against transgender athletes.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 18, 2022, 10:08:19 PM
Back in my cycling days I could easily defeat any woman in a time trial - with the exception of the late, great Beryl Burton - whereas against men I was probably not in the first 1,000
Mike
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Jacqueline on March 18, 2022, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: GrannyMac on March 18, 2022, 07:33:28 PM
Are you sure klondike?

Have a read of this. So much for women's rights. https://www.gbnews.uk/news/hospital-staff-told-police-their-patient-was-not-raped-as-alleged-attacker-was-transgender-despite-cctv-showing-assault-in-ward/250941 (https://www.gbnews.uk/news/hospital-staff-told-police-their-patient-was-not-raped-as-alleged-attacker-was-transgender-despite-cctv-showing-assault-in-ward/250941)


That is one of the most apauling things I have ever heard, for the hospital to actually lie that a rape didn't happen.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: klondike on March 18, 2022, 10:28:34 PM
As the culprit was transgender and placed amongst the women by hospital rules  there is the distinct possibility that they simply dare not admit it. It's a variation on the failure to tackle abuse of underage girls by Muslim men in so many cities.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 18, 2022, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: klondike on March 18, 2022, 10:28:34 PM
As the culprit was transgender and placed amongst the women by hospital rules  there is the distinct possibility that they simply dare not admit it. It's a variation on the failure to tackle abuse of underage girls by Muslim men in so many cities.
The hospital management originally denied that the rape occurred because 'there were no men on that ward'. This despite the rape being caught on CCTV! As I understand it, they have now accepted that it did occur. Personally, I feel their original denial comes into the sphere of perverting the course of justice. Appalling behaviour
Mike
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: crabbyob on March 19, 2022, 09:47:15 AM
the poor ladies family should each be issued with a rusty knife and locked in a room with the transgender person to help 'him' to the full transition into being the her 'it' obviously wants to become...
so is this guy trying to transition into a lesbian?
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: GrannyMac on March 19, 2022, 10:18:31 AM
I'd be very surprised if he wanted to go the whole hog. Unfortunately just dressing as a woman offers untold opportunities for perverts like him.

The hospital management acted disgracefully IMO.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 19, 2022, 12:09:27 PM
That's exactly how I see it
Mike
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Jacqueline on March 19, 2022, 04:35:36 PM
Why do people pander to what these perverts want.   I would like to be transformed into a  tall young millionare and it an't ever going to happen.  If a man wants to dress up and think he is a woman it's (was) a free country think what he likes, but I should also be free to think that he is a man in drag.
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Scrumpy on March 20, 2022, 07:59:53 AM



Ballsy lady.. !!!
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: crabbyob on March 20, 2022, 10:04:40 AM
More a testicular tart i think
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Alex on March 25, 2022, 08:52:57 PM
Putting all the trans crap aside, this is an interesting photo of Lia Thomas at the start of the women's final race. She/He just dives over all the women swimmers, obviously much stronger than the women.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nVQ8F0b3/swimmert.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bd8VL0vn)
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 25, 2022, 11:42:03 PM
it's just not right
Title: Re: 2nd is the new first
Post by: Scrumpy on March 26, 2022, 08:02:51 AM



Interested to know who his/her fans are..
I doubt if women would applaud his/her unfair triumph over women.
as for men.. they like their women to be ALL woman..


The whole business is unfair and could damage sport as we know it..