It seems that the government is more concerned whether or not Boris told the truth about the party he originally supposed to have banned but went to one instead,
mean while the u.k is spending billions helping Ukraine defend itself to which we all agree and rightly so, however it seems that back home the government seems more concerned about Boris where as i would have thought more emphasis would have been centred on the millions of people including many pensioners as to how they are going to manage
paying all these increases which apart from gas and electric where is the money coming from for them to pay the bills ,
the chancellor is saying next year we will get a decent pension , even though he has robbed us of the money we should have had this year
that but its this year we need it not next year, as for many people they might not be alive to receive it .
so what is parliament all about simply yes men who seem to forget their pay rise and ignore the pensioners after all to them were expendable not worth thinking about , as the chancellor decides which of the five cars he has to drive about in,
i sincerely hope all pensioners will give the tory government a good drumming and i hope they lose power as they have without doubt neglected us all together and for got about the living standards which thousands of people are struggling as it is ,
Q; SO WHY HAS THIS GOVERNMENT FORGOTTEN US ,
have you any thoughts on how we can pay this government back for ignoring us perhaps through the ballot box like we did with brexit,
maybe ,.
I agree with you Alfred about giving the Tories a drumming, BUT what would the alternative be like ? We really are stuck between a rock and a hard place :downvote:
Alfred
be careful of that for which you wish. The alternative is Labour, with a high probability of Starmer being ousted by the hard left. I have lived through the premierships of Attlee, Wilson, Callaghan, Blair and Brown. Each and every one of them left the country in a parlous state.
Mike
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To be fair, Attlee came to power at the end of WW2 when a lot needed to be done, but in 6 years of centralised socialism, things stayed pretty much the same for most people, and the beginning of nationalisation saw much that was hidebound for years to come. Again, to be fair, the early years of the NHS were a godsend for many - but just look at it now!
Mike
Quote from: alfred on April 22, 2022, 07:55:09 AM
I sincerely hope all pensioners will give the tory government a good drumming and i hope they lose power as they have without doubt neglected us all together and for got about the living standards which thousands of people are struggling as it is.
We need a Labour Government, as pensioners have always been far better off under Labour.
Well apart from pensioners like me when Labour scrapped the State Pension adult dependent allowance of £50 a week.
Pensioners are old enough to remember the chaos that the previous Labour Governments have subjected us to, ranging from Callaghan's discontent to Blair's wars, so voting Labour is not an option.
Quote from: 1955vintage on April 22, 2022, 01:54:47 PM
Pensioners are old enough to remember the chaos that the previous Labour Governments have subjected us to, ranging from Callaghan's discontent to Blair's wars, so voting Labour is not an option.
Indeed we don't, which is why my post had a generous amount of sarcasm in it.
I'm not keen on politicians of any party but do remember the mess that previous Labour governments have left. Wasn't there a note left in the treasury saying there was no money left?
Quote from: Sheila on April 22, 2022, 04:00:37 PM
I'm not keen on politicians of any party but do remember the mess that previous Labour governments have left. Wasn't there a note left in the treasury saying there was no money left?
Liam Byrne I recall, similar from Reggie Maudling to James Callaghan in 1964: "Good luck, old cock ... Sorry to leave it in such a mess."
Kick the Tories out and we could end up with the Labour Party and the SNP sharing power :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Quote from: hugh on April 22, 2022, 05:36:46 PM
Kick the Tories out and we could end up with the Labour Party and the SNP sharing power :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Now that would
really be fun!
Mike
The cost of the coalition would certainly be another referendum and the way things are looking I'd say there is every chance of the next government being Labour/SNP. So which way will the referendum go? Will the English care? I can't answer that although I believe it would be a mistake for Scotland.
Good grief the thought of the SNP being in power here is the stuff of nightmares. The "Let me be clear " woman, combined with the weak Keir Starmer, geez she'd eat him for breakfast :grin: :grin:
If it did happen, would wee Krankie have to move down to London ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Sturgeon doesn't stand for British government elections elections. She is First Minister in the Scottish Parliament. She could direct her Westminster troops without any need to move to London.
I very much doubt that the SNP are the slightest bit interested in having power south of the boarder. They want away from Westminster to an independent Scotland.
True but they need the "permission" of Westminster to hold a referendum and forming a coalition with Labour with that as the price IMO represents their best chance of gaining one.
The Tories have little chance of fixing the big upcoming problems of soaring energy prices, returning inflation and a close to useless NHS before the next election. Johnson is regarded as a liar by over half the population and probably half of his own party too. The May council elections are likely to offer no comfort at all to the huge numbers of new Tory MPs with twitching buttocks when then consider their chances of planting them on the green leather seats after the next election. With Partygate looking to continue for months there is a good chance they will bin Boris as an electoral liability before considering they have nobody remotely popular in their ranks. Interesting times aheadd.
To be perfectly honest I'm fed up with the whole lot of them, SNP included. I may waste my vote this time by voting for Alba.
Nicola said if she doesn't get independence this time she will leave. I can just see Mike Rolls doing cartwheels down his road.
Cameron cheated her out of the last one for sure with bribes that sounded good but probaby amounted to little. I don't follow this issue but doubtless you do. You must have some idea that is not influenced by your dreams on the chances of first getting a referendum and second winning it if you do.
yes folks lose sight in their rambles
to be the PM she needs a seat in the house, is she ever likely to be one of those...erm no she would never stand as that would remove her perceived crown
no we would be stuck wi the wee poser we have to listen to now
Quote from: crabbyob on April 23, 2022, 09:14:06 AM
yes folks lose sight in their rambles
to be the PM she needs a seat in the house
I didn't see anybody suggesting she may be PM. You are the first to mention that.
My thought was if indeed there is a coalition between Labour and SNP then the SNP isn't going to want Ian Blackford as Deputy Prime Minister are they ? or are they ?
Sturgeon is as bad as Boris, what about "Ferrygate"? the only difference is the Scottish media doesn't go after her like the English media hounds Boris..
and does
The STV News programmes have been having a right go at Nicola over the ferries. Everytime I watch there's another person being interviewed about it.
I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of it all but I do know these are the wrong kind of ferries, the islanders wanted and need smaller ones, and more of them so there can be proper regular sailings. They were against these two massive boats from the start, but nobody would listen to them, after all they are only the people who live on the islands and know what's needed.
Do you ever use any of them?
Quote from: Raven on April 23, 2022, 01:35:24 PM
the islanders wanted and need smaller ones, and more of them so there can be proper regular sailings.
I think Border Force Dover have some in stock...
Not Cal Mac unless I'm heading over to the Western Isles. The ferries up here are North Link and serve the Orkneys and Shetland Isles, I have used them a fair few times.
i on the other hand used the bus
all the better to leach off england if yer actually there [2090]
Oddly if you visit either country for a holiday you won't be able to use your bus pass.
On the subject of bus pass users leaching I would argue that they cost nothing. Often in the day the vast majority of passengers are us geriatrics flashing out free passes. If we were not on those buses (and many wouldn't be if they got charged) they would still be running but getting a different subsisdy. All pensioners bus passes are is an alternate way of subsidising the buses which would happen anyway. Local councils who cut bus services soon become the local opposition party.
The problem with Cal Mac.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61161932