The Papers are reporting that Covid Infections are on the rise again in the UK. I also noticed more people are wearing masks again. I was actually planning to wear mine again when I'm in Tesco ect this Winter.
How about you? Are you going to take precautions over the Winter?
BBC News - Covid infections rise by 14% in UK and now top a million
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63088223
Yes I think I'll wear a mask in the supermarkets again over winter. I rarely use the bus, but that would be another place to use one.
50 people are being treated for Covid in our local hospital. The report doesn't say how many of them had been vaccinated.
I suppose this will turn out to be yet another new strain of the virus. :cry:
I will not be wearing my mask.. It is up to others whether or not they get boosters..
It is their choice...
Would be interesting to know how many of those occupying hospital beds have not had their jabs..
Most of the studies show that I've seen reported show that you are more likely to catch covid if vaccinated and no less likely to land in hospital. It should surely be clear to anybody that the vaccines simply do not work. They are now known not to stop infection nor do they stop those infected from being infectious - the last bastion was that they reduced severity and it seems now that they don't do that either.
Masks? Not for me.
That wasn't my experience klondike. I had received numerous letters telling me what to pack in my hospital bag and Paul was told that he wasn't allowed out either! I have asthma, bronchiectasis and a non-contagious form of TB.
We caught covid (after 3 vaccinations) but it wasn't very severe and I think this was because of the vaccinations. At the start of covid my GP gave me a two week supply of doxycycline but I didn't need to take them.
Quote from: klondike on October 03, 2022, 10:27:21 AMMost of the studies show that I've seen reported show that you are more likely to catch covid if vaccinated and no less likely to land in hospital. It should surely be clear to anybody that the vaccines simply do not work. They are now known not to stop infection nor do they stop those infected from being infectious - the last bastion was that they reduced severity and it seems now that they don't do that either.
Masks? Not for me.
That does seem to be the science but I would advise anyone to do their own research. None of the measures taken have made any difference and the novel injections were designed for something that faded out over a year ago. The choice is yours, and God help you.
Quote from: Ashy on October 03, 2022, 01:36:54 PMthe novel injections were designed for something that faded out over a year ago. The choice is yours, and God help you.
Yes I've seen suggestions that the Omicron "variant" is so genetically different from the original Sars-Cov2 that this started out with that it should be regarded as a different virus entirely.
Anyhow for better or worse I've made my choice.
Had a call from my SIL earlier today, my daughter now has Covid. [1060]
I suppose she picked that up on holiday in Spain last week.
My daughter and both grandchildren have had covid over the last couple of months. All have had their jabs.. Martha , my granddaughter, has bouts of asthma .. I believe they would have been in a worse state had they not..
Regan has had all her jags too. She had no option as she works in the Doctors Surgery. She was due to go for her next one and flu one next week, will have to cancel.
Quote from: klondike on October 03, 2022, 10:27:21 AMMost of the studies show that I've seen reported show that you are more likely to catch covid if vaccinated and no less likely to land in hospital. It should surely be clear to anybody that the vaccines simply do not work. They are now known not to stop infection nor do they stop those infected from being infectious - the last bastion was that they reduced severity and it seems now that they don't do that either.
Masks? Not for me.
That's what a Lincolnshire GP said about the MMR vaccine, that it wasn't effective & could cause serious side effects, & he was hounded out of the medical profession.
The MMR vaccine was tested for years and has a full licence rather than tested for a few months and only released on an emergency license.
The UK has stopped using the AstraZenica vaccine as have many others https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/15/which-countries-have-halted-use-of-astrazenecas-covid-vaccine
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-young-men-2021-10-07/
What you do is up to you.
'What you do is up to you.'
Of course it is..
Deaths and hospital admission has decreased since jabs have been introduced.. So I guess something is working..
Yes evolution is working. The virus has mutated as they always do into something less deadly.
A virus that prevents its host from mixing by making them seriously ill does not reproduce as well as one that only produces walking wounded so the dominant strain becomes the one that produces the milder symptoms while the deadly one becomes far less common.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/10/08/florida-recommends-against-mrna-vaccination-for-males-aged-18-39-due-to-84-increase-in-heart-death-risk/
Florida Recommends Against mRNA Vaccination for Males Aged 18-39 Due to 84% Increase in Heart Death Risk
Florida's State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has recommended against males aged 18 to 39 receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines owing to an 84% increase in the incidence of heart-related death within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. Here is the press release.
Today, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo has announced new guidance regarding mRNA vaccines. The Florida Department of Health (Department) conducted an analysis through a self-controlled case series, which is a technique originally developed to evaluate vaccine safety.
This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination. With a high level of global immunity to COVID-19, the benefit of vaccination is likely outweighed by this abnormally high risk of cardiac-related death among men in this age group. Non-mRNA vaccines were not found to have these increased risks.
As such, the State Surgeon General recommends against males aged 18 to 39 from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. Those with preexisting cardiac conditions, such as myocarditis and pericarditis, should take particular caution when making this decision.
"Studying the safety and efficacy of any medications, including vaccines, is an important component of public health," said Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo. "Far less attention has been paid to safety and the concerns of many individuals have been dismissed – these are important findings that should be communicated to Floridians."
The analysis can be found here. The guidance can be found here.
The move follows on from Denmark ending vaccination of most under-50s, though any safety considerations in that decision were left implicit.
I read this the other day, I know there's still so much they don't know about the vaccines, so why are they still 'sending' for people to go along for their booster here ?
The British Yellow Card data has been published up to 28th September and it shows that 2,272 people died whose deaths were linked to one of the novel injections, an increase in 32 over the last month.
I am scared to have the Covid jab and scared not to, I am having my flu jab next week, but haven't decided about the Covid one yet.
So much scarey information out there, and I do know a lady of 60 who has serious heart problems which her doctor admitted was probably from the jab.
I always felt they 'discovered' a vaccine far too quick .... most can take decades ... having said that I do believe having a jab reduces the severity.
I also believe that as a steep learning curve on how to tackle a pandemic, the next time around when some virus goes global it'll be handled in a totally different way. The cost in billions to the economy and the dire increase in NHS waiting lists is going to take years to put right.
As to wearing a mask in supermarkets and on buses ... I might do again now winter is on it's way and cases seem to be on the rise.
I should mention that the day after we returned from holiday, I began to feel slightly ill. On Wednesday (the 5th) I did a Covid test which proved positive.
My feelings of illness began to become a little worse after that: interestingly, most of the stated ill feelings never showed themselves, but I lost my appetite and found it hard to eat anything without feeling sick - a bit of a problem for a diabetic - and I did throw up once after trying to eat some food.
My blood glucose levels (as I'd expect) dropped, several times below 4, and Marge was becoming rather concerned.
Today, I had the bright idea of drinking a full glass of milk for breakfast and that overcame the feelings of sickness, which I assume were due to acid build-up in the stomach. I know what to do now!
They say that Covid usually lasts no more than 10 days...
of course, then there's that 'Long Covid' thing!
I do have a couple of medical appointments (unrelated) and I'm considering delaying them.
Well that's me back from having my 2 jags, one in each arm. [1100] I'm glad I got Himself to drive me as both my arms are sore, hope there's nothing else going to happen. I remember my first Covid jag, it floored me for around 3 days, I don't want a repeat of that, it wasn't nice. [2010]
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I'm afraid that Marge has just now tested positive; six days after I first tested positive, though she doesn't have any symptoms yet.
Sorry Marge. :cry:
Luckily, it can't be passed on over t'internet, so you're all safe.
oh dear hope it's a mild dose :upvote:
Quote from: Alex on October 11, 2022, 05:56:48 PMoh dear hope it's a mild dose :upvote:
Thanks Alex. So far, she has no symptoms. Unfortunately, I do and have done for a week now. Not the usual coughing fits, etc., though. I have lost any appetite and find it difficult to eat, having to force myself which makes me feel like vomiting.
I hope Marge manages to avoid those horrible feelings.
Flu jab :check: no swelling or pain, good, because I've sometimes had a reaction.
Covid jab booked in a couple of weeks :check: Fingers x no bad side effects. My daughter had both together last week, mandatory in her job, and felt rough for a day, a bad headache and shivery.
OH, with his dicky ticker, has decided against the booster, he had some weird reactions after earlier ones. Racing heartbeat being the most concerning.
My daughter is still tesing positive and it's now been a week, her husband is also now testing postitive and my grandaughter is now on her way up here to us for a while.
oh dear! Here's hoping that they will all be fine soon
Mike
I had my 5th Covid jab on the 10th September and this time it was the Moderna vaccine.
I had the Pfizer vaccine jabs in Jan 21, April 21, Sept 21 & April 2022.
Apart from an aching arm on a couple of occasions I haven't had any problems whatsoever.
I did & still do wear a mask when required to, but not otherwise.
I have mixed with several people who've tested positive for Covid but I've never done a test, so I don't actually know if I've had Covid or not.
I have booked in for my second flu jab & a shingles jab on the 21st October.
Today, I cancelled my flu jab of tomorrow and my optician's appointment of the 14th, both because I still test positive for Covid.
I sometimes treat myself irresponsibly, but I won't do that to other people.
Still feeling sick and, as a consequence of not eating enough, find myself having low blood glucose levels (around 3) when I wake up in the morning.
My diabetes nurse is going to go up the wall when she finds out my blood readings! :nooo:
Quote from: Jacqueline on October 09, 2022, 01:56:12 PMI am scared to have the Covid jab and scared not to, I am having my flu jab next week, but haven't decided about the Covid one yet.
So much scarey information out there, and I do know a lady of 60 who has serious heart problems which her doctor admitted was probably from the jab.
If you don't have it you can change your mind later.
If you do have it, whatever the consequences, however dire and painful, you cannot reverse it.
Looking at my covid timeline notes from last year....
Met with the carrier 4/8
Coughing 6/8
Tested +ve using lateral flow 9/8
Symptoms pretty much cleared on 10/8 when I sent in PCR test which confirmed +ve
20/8 at end of isolation still showing +ve on LF. Test and trace said ignore that.
Finally got clear LF test on 27/8
The tests pick up virus fragments which can hang around a log time it seems.
Quote from: klondike on October 12, 2022, 04:41:04 PMLooking at my covid timeline notes from last year....
Met with the carrier 4/8
Coughing 6/8
Tested +ve using lateral flow 9/8
Symptoms pretty much cleared on 10/8 when I sent in PCR test which confirmed +ve
20/8 at end of isolation still showing +ve on LF. Test and trace said ignore that.
Finally got clear LF test on 27/8
The tests pick up virus fragments which can hang around a log time it seems.
I've never registered with the Test & Trace rubbish, I don't want some jobsworth telling me I have to do a test because I happened to be in Morrisons when a Covid positive shopper was there.
I'd be surprised if I haven't had Covid, but if I have I certainly haven't had any noticeable symptoms.
Quote from: klondike on October 12, 2022, 04:41:04 PMLooking at my covid timeline notes from last year....
Met with the carrier 4/8
Coughing 6/8
Tested +ve using lateral flow 9/8
Symptoms pretty much cleared on 10/8 when I sent in PCR test which confirmed +ve
20/8 at end of isolation still showing +ve on LF. Test and trace said ignore that.
Finally got clear LF test on 27/8
The tests pick up virus fragments which can hang around a log time it seems.
Well it looks like I shall be positive for weeks to come!
I really don't care about that in itself. I'd just like to see the end of my lack of appetite and feeling sick whenever the thought of food enters my head.
I've decided not to have the fourth jab, or booster as they're calling it. I was ill with 2 out of the last 3 jabs, not for long and not serious, but enough to curtail my galivanting. Plus I has a sore arm with all 3. Maybe I'll change my mind later on, but for now I've had enough.
Quote from: Alex on October 13, 2022, 03:32:34 PMI've decided not to have the fourth jab, or booster as they're calling it. I was ill with 2 out of the last 3 jabs, not for long and not serious, but enough to curtail my galivanting. Plus I has a sore arm with all 3. Maybe I'll change my mind later on, but for now I've had enough.
The fourth jab was in April this year, so I don't know if you can still have it after this length of time.
Well my surgery keeps texting me !
Quote from: Diasi on October 13, 2022, 09:17:54 AMI've never registered with the Test & Trace rubbish, I don't want some jobsworth telling me I have to do a test because I happened to be in Morrisons when a Covid positive shopper was there.
I didn't do any registering. I tested positive with a lateral flow test after being in contact with somebody who had symptoms and tested positive so requested a PCR test and that was positive. It was the Test and Trace group who contact you - almost certainly to make sure you are isolating. I got one call right after the positive test and was told when I should isolate til then another call on the last day to tell me it was the last day.
I only posted my personal timeline to illustrate that the lateral flow tests show positive well after the infection period is over. I imagine that PCR tests would too as they both just check for a section of the viral RNA not the complete virus and the breakdown products apparently hang around for quite a while.