It looks like it may be. No outages since yesterday afternoon. If it can be sorted that quickly why on earth did it take the setup of this forum for Chris to fix it?
well, I've accessed it three time so far this morning without trouble, whereas 24 hours ago I was gnashing my teeth (both of them)
Mike
Just tried again - no problem
Mike
The first post in this thread used to show a live (within a minute anyway) PF status report but I have removed it today Sunday 2nd Jan. It it goes down it used to show in that report. I don't think it is going to. I've been keeping an eye on outages for weeks now but not saving the historical reports until recently. There were no overnight downtimes last night and I think that is a first apart from the 28th which was an unusually good day.
I think the hosting has been upgraded. It must have been with the same vendor as there was no noticeable outage so no DNS propagation delay which I mentioned. They would route to the appropriate server inside their data centre.
There has been an outage a little while ago - caught out our photographer friend (can't remember his forum name)
Mike :worried:
Well a couple of times today my posts didn't go through although I did remain logged into the forum.
TBH I think this backup will wither on the vine and things will go pretty much back to normal on PF. Chris may well want to keep it going but without doing any monitoring of performance or what chancers have arrived and what they are up to. Why didn't he get it fixed a month back? The forum was full of complaints about it. Why weren't the dynamic duo binned off. Check back and you will see that I had their cards marked within days of arrival.
I won't return to PF but that is my choice and I don't expect anybody else to give up on it.
Quote from: klondike on December 30, 2021, 10:34:50 AM
TBH I think this backup will wither on the vine and things will go pretty much back to normal on PF. Chris may well want to keep it going but without doing any monitoring of performance or what chancers have arrived and what they are up to. Why didn't he get it fixed a month back? The forum was full of complaints about it. Why weren't the dynamic duo binned off. Check back and you will see that I had their cards marked within days of arrival.
I won't return to PF but that is my choice and I don't expect anybody else to give up on it.
It'll be PF loss if you don't return K.
Regards the so called "dynamic duo", I would've thought that a person of your intelligence would be more than capable of handling them......with ease.
I had no problem. I just put the Jew and Brit hater on ignore so I wasn't tempted to reply.
I did fail when he posted in a thread I'd started and replied. Fortunately he obviously complained to Chris who thoughtfully deleted his post, my reply and a few others making that mistake on my part good.
Regarding Weapons Grade he did have some decent input but sadly mixed it with his sneering attitude. I picked him up on that a number of times. Bit like you try to stop a naughty puppy crapping in the corner. That was unsuccessful to the extent that he complained and Chris rightly deleted my posts as they infringed forum rules. It did work in the end though as Chris clearly got annoyed with the constant interruptions to his navel contemplation or whatever and had to delete my and other folks posts so he put him on pre publication moderation which from my little test means a 5 or 6 hour delay so his input fell right off.
As you say, Without the sneering attitude he could have been a pretty interesting guy. :wink: I would have liked to hear his stories about the life in the Foreign Services ect, it would certainly have added some colour, bound to have had some funny tales to share as well. [1140]
I haven't tried yet today, I come on here first now.
Quote from: Alex on December 30, 2021, 02:16:51 PM
I haven't tried yet today, I come on here first now.
I always come here first as well.
I still use PFuk but I no longer feel comfortable there.
I have known the Deep, or DP Dance as he is known, at the other place for some years. He is incapable of telling a story without casting himself as a superior being, so it gets boring very quickly.
Quote from: Diasi on December 30, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
I always come here first as well.
I still use PFuk but I no longer feel comfortable there.
My thoughts excactly ...
So is the PF fixed, could every one try. If fixed members could really decide what they want to do. Hugh
Just been and given it a try, and had no problem. Hugh
Looks like the outages are fixed. I don't buy the networking problem I think it far more likely that it was put on free hosting and has been switched back to paid. Free hosting should in theory be ok as the demands are low - running the forum on my Raspberry Pi alongside all my personal stuff doesn't stress it. But the hosting proved to be very unreliable.
I have used free hosting for my personal stuff and got fed up with a similar problem. At one time I had my stuff on two free hosters so when one was down I could use the other. You can't do that with a forum though as it needs to be in sync. Running the database server on one and the webserver on another just doubles the odds of something being down.
The reason it wasn't fixed still seems to me to be because Chris pays very little attention to the forum and only paid attention when he belatedly found I'd set this clone up. Obviously I may be wrong in all of that.
It sounds bang on to me..
got in three times in the last couple of hours or so - no problem
Mike
Quote from: klondike on December 30, 2021, 07:05:09 PM
Looks like the outages are fixed. I don't buy the networking problem I think it far more likely that it was put on free hosting and has been switched back to paid. Free hosting should in theory be ok as the demands are low - running the forum on my Raspberry Pi alongside all my personal stuff doesn't stress it. But the hosting proved to be very unreliable.
I have used free hosting for my personal stuff and got fed up with a similar problem. At one time I had my stuff on two free hosters so when one was down I could use the other. You can't do that with a forum though as it needs to be in sync. Running the database server on one and the webserver on another just doubles the odds of something being down.
The reason it wasn't fixed still seems to me to be because Chris pays very little attention to the forum and only paid attention when he belatedly found I'd set this clone up. Obviously I may be wrong in all of that.
You're spot on as I also thought the network problem was a load of garbage.
The Cloudfare 522 reports showed traffic getting through but timed out by the host server which isn't a network issue, it's a host server issue as you say.
Chris has said that he's a busy family man with teenage children so I imagine his time is spent between work & home life, which is fair enough, but which shows he hasn't the necessary time to keep on top of PF & my view is that he'll always be fire-fighting problems.
I'm disappointed by the way that he's tried to discredit you when he should have been thanking you.
As I've said before, he's like the playground kid who owns the bat & ball & insists that the game is played to his rules.
He does own the pitch too :grin:
It could have been a dodgy router within the host data centre but they don't go up and down at random.
My theory is still free hosting and the unscrupulous hoster does this deliberatley to push free clients to paid hosting. Given there was no delay it was certainly the same host. It may even be the same server as the response times and page generation times being shown were good - pretty much on a par with my Raspberry Pi :grin:
If it is a dodgy hoster the next step will probably be long response times to push for a more expensive hosting package. Not that Chris would notice and I've put a password on my monitor now as I suspect he was using it.
Quote from: klondike on December 31, 2021, 09:37:24 AM
He does own the pitch too :grin:
It could have been a dodgy router within the host data centre but they don't go up and down at random.
My theory is still free hosting and the unscrupulous hoster does this deliberatley to push free clients to paid hosting. Given there was no delay it was certainly the same host. It may even be the same server as the response times and page generation times being shown were good - pretty much on a par with my Raspberry Pi :grin:
If it is a dodgy hoster the next step will probably be long response times to push for a more expensive hosting package. Not that Chris would notice and I've put a password on my monitor now as I suspect he was using it.
And you have the added satisfaction of sending him a rasberry when you reply. Lol :smiley:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
How can Chris use your monitor ? idiots answer please klondike :cool:
Can you explain how he was able to read what's on here, he hasn't registered has he, plus when I Googled Pensioners Forum all I got was the original, plus various PF all over the UK.
I posted the url to it on PF. It contained a link to this forum. Recruiting poster you might say.
This forum like just about every other forum on the internet doesn't require registration to read only to post.
Quote from: klondike on December 31, 2021, 12:11:54 PM
I posted the url to it on PF. It contained a link to this forum. Recruiting poster you might say.
This forum like just about every other forum on the internet doesn't require registration to read only to post.
Oh I must have missed that, didn't know you'd posted a link.
Don't think there were any sign ups from it,
The link didn't get put inside it till fairly recently but I knocked up the monitor soon after the problems started and posted links to it in a number of threads moaning about outages.
As new threads kept appearing I just did a copy paste of the actual outages because few actually click links.
Later after this forum was set up and I was persuaded that it was time to recruit I put the link in and posted it a couple of more times.
Incidentally...
HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error from 2021-12-31 01:36 to 01:37 - down for 1 minutes
1 outages with a total downtime of 1 minutes
I doubt anybody was inconvenienced at that time though and none of the old links will work over there anyway as apparently digitalham is now a profanity :smiley:
To be honest, leaving the mechanics aside, I am very disappointed in Chris' behaviour, which seems both petulant and childish. Any thread containing honest comment or question is promptly locked. I asked him who had been poached - no answer. I emailed him at length explain my misgivings - no answer.
To be honest, if it wasn't because I enjoy the non-Chris dominated threads, I would be long gone
Mike
Also I don't have to resort to third party sites (postimages) to post photo's anymore. But for the kindness of 'Raven' in this connection, I was left struggling. One day on PF.co it worked the next with no changes (or announcements) it didn't. Here, pictures work first time on upload and don't have to be shrunk, but then still rejected as "the upload box was full". I find the 512k limit at this place, both feasible to adapt and friendly to operate. And no more tiresome and unfathomable 'spacings' and 'font/size' edits on 'preview' wysiwyg I think it was called 40 years ago. Thank you klon.
You're welcome Cass. Thanks for the kind words.
Quote from: Michael Rolls on December 31, 2021, 01:10:07 PM
To be honest, leaving the mechanics aside, I am very disappointed in Chris' behaviour, which seems both petulant and childish. Any thread containing honest comment or question is promptly locked. I asked him who had been poached - no answer. I emailed him at length explain my misgivings - no answer.
To be honest, if it wasn't because I enjoy the non-Chris dominated threads, I would be long gone
Mike
That makes two of us.
Some of you have seen my comments on PF in support of klondike. Lack of communication from Chris is what led to klondike doing something for our benefit. To then decide it was a takeover was very disappointing IMO.
I saw your comments.. At least you tried to get the truth out there..
Unfortunately Chris is very blinkered in the way he sees this BACK UP forum.. He won't budge . Which is very sad because I think it now cannot be mended.. Too many things have been said..
Yep. Chris has created a breakaway forum all on his own. There is no way I'd retun to PF proper now so there will be two places pensioners can meet up. He sees it as poaching and competition I just see this as an annex although in time I like to see some new posters came along from outside PF too now. Every forum has departees so if it isn't going to die off it needs newcomers too.
There was a new id registered today peterv6153. No posts though. I checked and it looks like a normal UK resident on a UK ISP connection but tbh I'm always a bit wary of nonsensical numbers in an id. Says the bloke who once redistered as fortyone :smiley:
Quote from: klondike on December 31, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
There was a new id registered today peterv6153. No posts though. I checked and it looks like a normal UK resident on a UK ISP connection but tbh I'm always a bit wary of nonsensical numbers in an I'd.
I too would like to see some fresh blood, :embarrassed: Errrrr I mean new active members. :embarrassed: But not lurkers, they are a pet hate of mine.
Me too, as long as they're not ex Grumpy Old Men :grin:
Oh, I don't know.. Some ex/serving GOM members could be fun..
AND, on the other hand, they could destroy the forum. :nooo:
We already have at least one ladies. The genius who came up with the term weapons grade prat. I for one am honoured to be in such company.
I'm awful with names is it 1955 ? seems like a nice boy :grin: :grin:
Quote from: 1955vintage on December 31, 2021, 09:10:14 AM
It is amusing to hear Scatico moaning about being on delayed posting.
I confess it was I who posts as whostolemyhair on the other forum, and christened the Deep WGP. Industrial strength pillock did not do him justice.
I have it in the back of my head that TREBOR may have said he came from there too. Sciatco didn't he got chucked out. GOM looks to be failing and just because the Deep turned out to be an arse doesn't mean others will be. How would you like a forum to be dubious about you because BigLouis had joined earlier?
Big Louis is still here :cool: : :lipsrsealed:
Yeah I've seen that theory but I don't buy it.
70% of her posts were about tat she was packing or which courier was collecting some
20% were complaints about "Mrs Gungadin"
Not sure what the other 10% actually were
If BL is still posting how can she suppress the 90% as I haven't noticed any of that old tosh
Allegedly
Does allegedly mean I can't be sued Cass?
Maybe I can't anyway as that is all factual.
Quote1955 ? seems like a nice boy
No, I am not , grumpy old git would be a better description, but I do dislike bullies like Deep and Scatterbrain.
Trebor is an occasional visitor to GOM but it appears that the forum is dying on the vine. Some excellent posters have passed, and they kept the pillocks like Deep in check.
Quote from: Alex on December 31, 2021, 10:19:07 PM
Big Louis is still here :cool: : :lipsrsealed:
I agree. Sweet. :smiley:
PM the name to me. You are allowed to here.
Come to that both PM me. Be interesting to see if you agree.