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Title: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Diasi on April 02, 2022, 05:02:36 PM
Fortunately for HMG the next huge energy rise, in October, will miss the September State Pension caculation period but I would be very suprised if HMG will be able to massage the CPI much below 8%, despite the forecast being 7.4%, the 2.5% base rate just won't apply & the average wages will have increased by around 6%.

So what percentage pension rise do you reckon we'll get next year?
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 02, 2022, 05:05:26 PM
Going into a probable election year too...

Given their apparent death wish I'd say they'll cap it again.

Even 8% of a pittance doesn't amount to much anyway. Of course it amounts to more for those born a year later than me.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Diasi on April 02, 2022, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: klondike on April 02, 2022, 05:05:26 PM
Going into a probable election year too...

Given their apparent death wish I'd say they'll cap it again.

If they do it'll be interesting to hear their reasoning.

I suppose they could use the same argument as they used when they dismissed the 8% rise in wages as a blip caused by the Covid pandemic & say that the 2022 inflation is also a blip.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 02, 2022, 05:54:04 PM
If they do they'll also be able to say the collapse in the grey vote (about the only one they get) is a blip too. The arses have upset me too much to cast a vote for them in the upcoming council elections. Whether I bother in the next general election remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: GrannyMac on April 02, 2022, 07:38:15 PM
I've written to my MP, Labour, asking for their take on the two tier pension.  I'll be interested in their reply.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Diasi on April 02, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
Quote from: GrannyMac on April 02, 2022, 07:38:15 PM
I've written to my MP, Labour, asking for their take on the two tier pension.  I'll be interested in their reply.

What would be the critieria for a two tier pension, 2.5% or average wages, 2.5% or CPI, average wages or CPI?

Or is that what you're asking your MP.

If you get the same type of answer that we got when we asked why the State Pension adult dependant allowance had been scrapped you won't be happy as it'll be some guff about priorities & the need to increase Universal & Pension Credit etc.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: GrannyMac on April 03, 2022, 05:58:56 AM
I've just asked her what the Labour stance is on younger pensioners being paid so much more than those who retired before 2016.  All Labour seem to do is criticise the government for everything, so I'd like to know how they plan to help older pensioners. 
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Diasi on April 03, 2022, 10:23:23 AM
Quote from: GrannyMac on April 03, 2022, 05:58:56 AM
I've just asked her what the Labour stance is on younger pensioners being paid so much more than those who retired before 2016.  All Labour seem to do is criticise the government for everything, so I'd like to know how they plan to help older pensioners.

Well as I said, best of luck in getting a reply that doesn't talk down to you about priorities that make you seeth.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: GrannyMac on April 03, 2022, 01:12:09 PM
I'm not holding my breath...   :hmm:
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 03, 2022, 05:21:58 PM
Let's hope they aren't either for your vote.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Jacqueline on April 03, 2022, 05:58:53 PM
According to the governments own figures, it costs £4.7 million per day to house asylum seekers in hotels, they base this on 37.000 people so by my calculations this is a cost of £127,000 per year each for people who have nothing to do with this country at all, and just arrived uninvited on our shores,  they have paid no taxes nor National Insurance.

The new State Pension rate for people who have paid into the system all their lives is £9339 per year, and many of us are on a lower rate than that.

There is something very wrong here.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 03, 2022, 07:17:39 PM
Lots won't see that £127k in their lifetime...
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Alex on April 03, 2022, 08:38:49 PM
There are more than 37,000 here !
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 03, 2022, 10:10:56 PM
I think that's just the dinghy boys being kept in hotels.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: GrannyMac on April 04, 2022, 08:46:25 AM
Quote from: klondike on April 03, 2022, 05:21:58 PM
Let's hope they aren't either for your vote.

I don't feel like voting for anyone at present. Starmer and co will have lost many female voters because of their stance on women's rights to safe spaces etc.  And although there is rage about the current government because of the cost of living and of course, immigration, I'm not sure any other party could do better.   We've had Brexit, covid, lockdown, and now a war in Europe to contend with.  Not really normal times.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: klondike on April 04, 2022, 09:43:39 AM
It's broken promises that annoy me. Triple lock? Elderly care sorted out? Probably others. Border in the Irish sea. Fishing fiasco. Plus the hypocrisy of setting a load of covid rules, ignoring them then lying about it.

People, rightly or wrongly, judge governments by the state of the economy.
I forsee the possibility of a one term Boris government (if he survives the covid fines, council elections meltdown and plummeting poll ratings). Followed by, heaven help us, a Starmer government, changed party rules, Starmer deposed as leader and a Marxist PM.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Jacqueline on April 04, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
What will labour do? instead of first raising our pensions, an amnesty for all the illegals, dinghy boys and probably on previous form, send P & O over for the rest.  I don't like the Tories but heaven help us if Labour become the Government i.e. Tony Blair, Gordon Brown.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Alex on April 04, 2022, 03:13:00 PM
The thought of a Labour government worries me, so it's the best of a bad bunch for me come election time.
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: Michael Rolls on April 04, 2022, 03:18:09 PM
me too
Title: Re: Predictions for the State Pension Increase Next Year.
Post by: crabbyob on April 04, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
i am as far from being tory as possible
but i will tear up my polling card before i vote for anyone in this labour party
for a start they want to undo Brexit
next they will point out how dangerous the dinghies are and fly them in..
directly from Pakestan