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I see that the silly sods are at it again, causing chaos on the M25 in the Monday morning rush hour. Under the law it is a criminal offence to interfere with the free movement of traffic on the King's highway, so why aren't they being arrested - ALL of them, not just a handful?

They won't get much in the way of hard policing. They aren't objecting to illegal migrants.

very true - I sometimes wish we had the ability to police ourselves!

That girl must have been taking lessons from St. Greta !

The young girl interviewed on the gantry over the M25, said she had no future and was in tears as if it was happening next week.  Even if we are killing our planet it will be a long gradual process, I read that man will probably become extinct in 7,800,000 years.  The invasion by illegals is more important to us all, this white girl will have no future here as we will be so overcrowded.  Cop 27 should be talking about world population control.

From what I read they were defying a court order so she does have a future but that future will probably include a short spell in jail fending off the transgender blokes in there. I was thinking about possible problems getting a job after but on reflection she likely doesn't have one anyway.

why work for a living when you can change the world? :1020:

What I don't understand is, one of the men filmed himself on the bridge and the traffic was flowing underneath. He was 20 or 30 feet above the road.

So why did the police stop the traffic? Are they complicit?

Danger to the traffic. Who wants 150lb of rancid lard through their windscreen when they are driving on the motorway.

as K says

1. They were on a staff walkway on a bridge
2. They were not threatening to jump
3. A speed limit would have done
4. That lot would have missed anyway

This one wasn't on a walkway. He climbed a gantry

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Nor were these today...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1694108/M25-travel-just-stop-oil-protest-junction-30-climate-change

M25 traffic chaos after two HGVs crash during peak rush hour as eco-mob halts vehicles
A police officer was struck by a car while responding to protests. Some 10 Just Stop Oil activists have climbed onto overhead gantries on the M25, forcing traffic to stop in several sections across the motorway.

A police officer was struck by a car and injured as he responded to Just Stop Oil activists targeting the M25 for the third day in a row. Massive disruptions in traffic have occurred on the busy road, as the activists protest about climate emergency and urge the government to halt new oil and gas licenses.

Meanwhile, the M25 also closed after two lorries crashed near Junction 25 on the motorway close to Enfield.

I've just been reading about a man who missed his father's funeral where he should have been a pallbearer.  How sad is that, he didn't get chance to say goodbye to his Dad because of these morons.  They should have kept traffic moving 20mph or so :waiting:

I agree, there is no significant danger to traffic and no obstruction of the carriageway. I simply do not understand why the police should want the traffic stopped unless they are complicit.

They're given far too much publicity, one of the news channel actually interviews them, I think its Talk TV

Presently they can only be fined minimal amounts. Maximum is only a £1000 for example. I don't know if Patel got her amendment through to '£unlimited' and / or six months for this crime.

However breaching a High Court Injunction is a different matter, or it should be ...

Section 6(c) of the Contempt of Court Act 1981 restricts liability for contempt of court in respect of conduct intended to impede or prejudice the administration of justice.

If a person disobeys the terms of an Order of Court which carries a penal notice, he/she/it will have breached the Injunction. As to whether such a breach constitutes contempt, will be considered on a case-by case approach according to the particular facts of the given case. The seriousness of the breach, and the question as to whether such action undermined or 'laughed in the face of the Court Order' so as to be contemptuous, will be determined by the Court. Obviously the more serious the breach so as to fall fowl of Section 6(c) of the 1981 Act, the greater will be the risk of a custodial sentence, or a larger fine.

Clearly the loony who is causing all this trouble 'Roger Hallam', who got a month in Wandsworth (not a nice place) just recently will just laugh at this and direct his troops from within, via a mobile phone. A hardbitten urban terrorist I'd have given him 6 months with a £25K fine and told him for each involvement whether direct or by implication the fine would double in line with the sentence.

Also the same would apply to all others. Amnesty International etc etc would appeal etc, but eventually the costs should drain their Tsar backers (whoever they are) into thinking twice.

Quote from: Cassandra on November 09, 2022, 04:38:20 PMA hardbitten urban terrorist I'd have given him 6 months with a £25K fine and told him for each involvement whether direct or by implication the fine would double in line with the sentence.
Also the same would apply to all others. Amnesty International etc etc would appeal etc, but eventually the costs should drain their Tsar backers (whoever they are) into thinking twice.

Now this I like. :yay:

me too

Something different certainly needs to be done as they are simply not deterred by what is being done now. Seizure of property and time getting to know intimately the inmates of one of His Majesty's prisons for several months would be an be excellent start.

Apparently the ringleaders of JSO have been detained in prison pending their trial on December 6th at Southwark. I think they are in deep doo dah. These are not the so-called protesters, they include Mr Hallam and his clerical friend.

Quote from: Ashy on November 09, 2022, 01:27:18 PMI agree, there is no significant danger to traffic and no obstruction of the carriageway. I simply do not understand why the police should want the traffic stopped unless they are complicit.

I think they probably are.
After all, apparently the police all have to have sociology degrees these days anyway, and we all know what they teach in sociology!

An excellent reader's comment in the Telegraph this morning:

"BBC R4 is in full Goebbels mode this morning.
Interview with this specimen: "Climate justice activist"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikaela_Loach
Decided that flying is OK, because "you've got to actually get to all these climate conferences around the world."
Totally unchallenged on her views, other than the usual BBC soft questions from the presenter.
This one has launched legal actions against the UK Gov because she's 24 and can't find her toys.
"For her activism work, Loach was named on BBC's Woman's Hour Power List."
Of course she was, of course she was."

I think this provides an excellent example of the sort of people who join 'Just Stop Oil' (and 'Extinction Rebellion').

Quote from: klondike on November 09, 2022, 06:05:24 PMSomething different certainly needs to be done as they are simply not deterred by what is being done now. Seizure of property and time getting to know intimately the inmates of one of His Majesty's prisons for several months would be an be excellent start.

For infringing a High Court Injunction sequestration rights to the Crown automatically apply - (miners strike, union fund seizures most famously) both to the individuals and to the organisation either planning or associatively involved.

Things may be getting sticky for some of them. I read that some are on remand until early December. I imagine they'll get let out on-time served more's the pity.


November 10, 2022, 02:26:29 PM
Just checked and things could be stickier than I thought. Conspiracy charges that could attract a maximum of 5 years although I doubt they will.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/23110847.just-stop-oil-protesters-remanded-m25-action/

I see a lot of these arses hail from my neck of the woods...

Daniel Shaw, 36, of Adam's Avenue, Northampton, also appeared in court on the same charge.

Five others have also been charged with conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.
They are: Christopher White, 29, of Summerhouse View, Yeovil, Somerset; Karen Matthews, 60, of Sywell Road, Overstone, Northamptonshire; Ian Bates, 63, of Clarke Road, Northampton; Alexander Wilcox, 21, of Billing Road, Northampton; and Louise Lancaster, 57, of Burnt Close, Cambridge.