Much has been written on social media today about the Tories. It seems the majority of ordinary voters think the Tory party is dead and they will never vote for them again. Many people are cancelling their membership and leaving in droves. Radio phone ins the same this morning. Time for Richard Tice to show his face.
Mordaunt has now withdrawn, What a bloody fix !
'ere less of the "Ordinary" some absolutely outstanding folk have been saying for some time now that the Tories are done for. Just check back on my posts :grin:
Well the careerist part of the conservative party has turned against the British people and even against its own volunteer members. Maybe the time for a new party that respects the people has come.
Just imagine if Boris took over as leader of Reform ? :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Alex on October 24, 2022, 02:24:27 PMJust imagine if Boris took over as leader of Reform ? :grin: :grin:
I don't think Tice would like that! I watched Tice on Talktv yesterday and he was very good.
I like him too Sheila, but I feel he needs some big names to get Reform Party really moving. :upvote:
Boris' policies don't match with the aims of Reform.
Reform : Control migration. Boris : close to open borders
Reform : Forget net zero. Boris : Net zero top priority
Reform : Low tax small goverenment. Boris :Mwoar berr phwoar yah
Reform : Remove surplus EU regulations. Boris : Mwoar berr phwoar yah
Reform : Sort out Brexit NI problem. Boris : Mwoar berr phwoar yah
Reform: Sort out Brexit fishing issues. Boris : Mwoar berr phwoar yah
I think everyone realises this Klondy, but when it came to Sunak and Boris, sometimes the Devil You Know......I'm probably on my own in thinking that too !
Boris was popular. Certainly I preferred him to May.
BUT
Several aspects of Brexit were badly bodged. We'd have been better with no deal than the variation of the May deal we ended up with. Maybe Boris felt no deal was too hard a sell.
IMO he was handed the premiership and big majority by Farage. OK there was covid but I still think there was a huge amount that could have been done that wasn't. Boris switched his attention (what little he can muster) to Net Zero no doubt to please his latest bed mate and finally wife.
Then came the lies. It wasn't the parties that got him it was the stupid denials that they happened and the final stupid denial that he knew nothing about the allegations about Pincher when plenty knew that he did. He will be found guilty of deliberately deceiving the house by the priviliges committee for the rather simple reason that he did. If he were made PM now he'd be forced to resign when that come along.
Quote from: Ashy on October 24, 2022, 02:14:39 PMWell the careerist part of the conservative party has turned against the British people and even against its own volunteer members.
Too right I spent a wasted weekend phoning Party members for whom we didn't have an email address, so we could get it & ensure they were able to vote.
The problem as I see it with all these smaller parties is that they all want to be leader. Perhaps an electoral arrangement not to stand against each other would be best for the time being.
They'd be better off combining if they all have similar ideas. I can't see any getting a seat though anyway even given this mess. Not that that will stop me voting for anything other than the current shower.
Just wait, the money men will stop deliberately interfering & the media won't say a word against him.
Already the money men have reduced the cost of the UK's borrowing which'll make Sunak look good, same as they raised it to make Liz Russ look bad.
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I missed that one but I'm sure it happened :grin: :grin: :grin:
Brilliant joke Raven ! I've nicked that one :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: Raven.
It certainly made me giggle. Poor Puss Wuss. :grin:
I knicked it too :grin:
brilliant!
October 25, 2022, 12:46:39 PM
actually, I reckon the puss could do a better job than some.....
Quote from: Diasi on October 24, 2022, 06:39:35 PMJust wait, the money men will stop deliberately interfering & the media won't say a word against him.
Already the money men have reduced the cost of the UK's borrowing which'll make Sunak look good, same as they raised it to make Liz Russ look bad.
You are so right, they crucified Boris and Liz, but this Indian will be left alone, the globalist money people have got their right man at last.
Quote from: Alex on October 24, 2022, 02:01:19 PMMuch has been written on social media today about the Tories. It seems the majority of ordinary voters think the Tory party is dead and they will never vote for them again. Many people are cancelling their membership and leaving in droves. Radio phone ins the same this morning. Time for Richard Tice to show his face.
There has been much talk about that in the Telegraph, which has been very much a Conservative newspaper.
I, too, have resolved to vote for Reform in 2024, though I'd rather the other 'new Conservative' parties ally themselves with Reform. In doing so, but still remaining under their individual leaderships, they can stand in different electorates (but not compete in the same electorates) and so gain more votes collectively.
Even better would be if Farage joined in with one of these new parties.
Certainly, the Conservatives by falling out with each other are making themselves less electable. Labour have been unelectable for a long time now and are showing no signs of improving. What better time for the new parties to make a real effort.
Quote from: Jacqueline on October 25, 2022, 12:49:28 PMYou are so right, they crucified Boris and Liz, but this Indian will be left alone, the globalist money people have got their right man at last.
That's exactly what's happened.
It's been a complete set-up as Penny Mordaunt would have got way over the 100 vote threshold as there are far more than a 100 Tory MPs who wouldn't piss on Sunak if he was on fire & I'm disappointed that she's sold her soul for her career prospects.
I thought she was one of the few who couldn't be tainted but I was wrong.
Quote from: Diasi on October 25, 2022, 02:27:47 PMThat's exactly what's happened.
It's been a complete set-up as Penny Mordaunt would have got way over the 100 vote threshold as there are far more than a 100 Tory MPs who wouldn't piss on Sunak if he was on fire & I'm disappointed that she's sold her soul for her career prospects.
I thought she was one of the few who couldn't be tainted but I was wrong.
Looked promising, but seems just another boring clone careerist, obviously pumped with ego and blind to how she really presents.
Perhaps Conservatives have done us a favour..
Maybe their 'lost' votes will go to the Reform party.. !!
Sadly P Morduant is both woke and weft. At least the indian is only weft.
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 25, 2022, 04:14:58 PMPerhaps Conservatives have done us a favour..
Maybe their 'lost' votes will go to the Reform party.. !!
I do hope so.
All that Sunak needs to do now, to virtually loose every seat in the country, is to scrap the Triple Lock.
Quote from: Diasi on October 27, 2022, 05:14:06 PMAll that Sunak needs to do now, to virtually loose every seat in the country, is to scrap the Triple Lock.
He is a self confessed deliverer of what he promises
(he says) - so it's already a goner - rely on it. Hunt hates pensioners with a vengeance, as is his Lib-Dem penchant. They
(Conservatives) will thankfully condemn themselves to the wilderness. This will likely be the last Tory Government most of us will ever see, if not the last of all time, as they diminish into a minor party.
Our generation will abstain in 2024 then passes on and the young people either don't vote , or will increasingly only follow the socialist/trots/greens/libs.
Surely even the Toxic lot at Westmonster must reaslise that, if they break their promise on the Tripple Lock, then they have signed their own death warrent.
They don't seem to realise that failing to stop the dinghy invasion is a sure path to oblivion either. I knew they were stupid but this effin' stupid?
Some part of me still thinks it was a deal with the EU to take them. When we reach perhaps 200,000 it will stop :hmm:
There are no deals with the EU. They say what others have to do.
If you like :yay:
I doubt they'd put any cap on it.