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Title: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Alex on March 20, 2024, 08:45:58 PM
For entering Yellow Boxes, making illegal turns, travelling in bus lanes, is you council here  ? mine is !
Is YOUR council collecting fines for driving offences? 
 YES:

Derby

Leicester

Nottingham

Herefordshire

Stoke-on-Trent

Bath and North East Somerset

City of Bristol

South Gloucestershire

Peterborough

Luton

Thurrock

Medway

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Reading

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Wokingham

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County Durham

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Oldham

Rochdale

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Liverpool

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Newcastle upon Tyne

Birmingham

Coventry

Walsall

Yes

Bradford

Leeds

City of London

Barking and Dagenham

Barnet

Bexley

Brent

Bromley

Camden

Croydon

Ealing

Enfield

Greenwich

Hackney

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Lambeth

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Wandsworth

Westminster

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Kent

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Norfolk

Oxfordshire

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West Sussex





 NO:

Hartlepool

Middlesbrough

Redcar and Cleveland

Stockton-on-Tees

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Halton

Warrington

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Blackpool

Kingston upon Hull, City of

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Bolton

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Knowsley

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Sefton

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Doncaster

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Solihull

Wolverhampton

Calderdale

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East Sussex

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Leicestershire

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North Yorkshire

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Staffordshire

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Warwickshire

Worcestershire

 

Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Diasi on March 20, 2024, 08:50:38 PM
Our local district council isn't listed so I don't know but it says Lincolnshire, which is the County Council, isn't collecting fines.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Alex on March 20, 2024, 08:54:15 PM
Sorry the list is long it didn't come out the way I copied it !
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: GrannyMac on March 20, 2024, 10:42:15 PM
Yes! Bus and tram gates catch lots out. 
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: klondike on March 20, 2024, 11:41:54 PM
Fines from speed cameras went to central government so my local council stopped maintaining them. They are  still there but they don't issue tickets. 

The police do still operate vans with cameras in which are carefully placed when and where maximum revenue is available rather than where there are potential hazards which should of course be corrected anyway.

There are bus lanes and crosshatch junctions but I don't think that they are enforced.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Scrumpy on March 21, 2024, 08:23:41 AM

My mate was just approaching Brighton when an ambulance came up behind her with the lights flashing.. She moved over to let it pass..
She received notice by post that she had entered a bus lane and was fined..

Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: dextrous63 on March 22, 2024, 07:57:47 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on March 21, 2024, 08:23:41 AMMy mate was just approaching Brighton when an ambulance came up behind her with the lights flashing.. She moved over to let it pass..
She received notice by post that she had entered a bus lane and was fined..


Oddly enough, this is clearly stated in the Highway Code somewhere.  Or at least I think it is, as we discussed it during my speed awareness course 🤭) a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: klondike on March 22, 2024, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: dextrous63 on March 22, 2024, 07:57:47 PMspeed awareness course
A very badly named course indeed. Should be called a speed camera awareness course.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: JBR on March 22, 2024, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on March 21, 2024, 08:23:41 AMMy mate was just approaching Brighton when an ambulance came up behind her with the lights flashing.. She moved over to let it pass..
She received notice by post that she had entered a bus lane and was fined..


This just goes to show that such rules these days are nothing to do with common sense, but all a matter of collecting money from people by any means possible.

What a country this has become.  I'm so glad that I have lived most of my life over the years when this was a country to be proud of.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Diasi on March 22, 2024, 09:55:45 PM
Quote from: dextrous63 on March 22, 2024, 07:57:47 PMOddly enough, this is clearly stated in the Highway Code somewhere.  Or at least I think it is, as we discussed it during my speed awareness course 🤭) a couple of years ago.
Indeed it is, it's also an offence to pull in & mount the pavement or move through a red light if the ambulance can't get through until you do.

The only time you can contravene traffic regulations is when an ambulance has a police escort & the police tell you to move through a red light etc.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Alex on March 22, 2024, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: Diasi on March 22, 2024, 09:55:45 PMIndeed it is, it's also an offence to pull in & mount the pavement or move through a red light if the ambulance can't get through until you do.

The only time you can contravene traffic regulations is when an ambulance has a police escort & the police tell you to move through a red light etc.

I didn't know that !  I've inched thru a red light to make space for an ambulance. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: klondike on March 23, 2024, 08:43:04 AM
The only time you'd get caught is by council money gthering cameras. Look on it as extra rates.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: dextrous63 on March 23, 2024, 09:50:19 AM
I recall a story a few years ago where a doctor pulled over to attend to a motorcyclist who had come off his bike and clearly needed help while waiting for the ambulance.  The doctor was given a ticket for parking on a double yellow line, even though the twat of a parking enforcement officer who issued it could see what was going on a few feet away. 
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: Michael Rolls on March 23, 2024, 10:24:24 AM
jobsworths!
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: JBR on March 23, 2024, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: dextrous63 on March 23, 2024, 09:50:19 AMI recall a story a few years ago where a doctor pulled over to attend to a motorcyclist who had come off his bike and clearly needed help while waiting for the ambulance.  The doctor was given a ticket for parking on a double yellow line, even though the twat of a parking enforcement officer who issued it could see what was going on a few feet away.
I think the best thing people in that situation should do is pay the fine and head straight for the nearest newspaper, or even TV company.

Publicise and let them be damned.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: klondike on March 23, 2024, 11:25:44 AM
As well as appealing the ticket.
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: dextrous63 on March 23, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
Whilst trying to find (unsuccessfully so far) the story I referred to, I found this little beauty of a story..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/traffic-warden-gives-man-parking-22662580

One could argue that this could have led to a charge of manslaughter had the fella died due to the additional stress?  
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: klondike on March 23, 2024, 08:23:02 PM
I think this is the story you remembered

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086847/Driver-gets-110-parking-fine-helps-aid-motorbike-crash-victim.html

Matches well except the first aider wasn't a doctor
Title: Re: Councils Collecting Fines
Post by: dextrous63 on March 23, 2024, 09:57:59 PM
Possibly/probably.  For some reason I had somewhere round Earl's Court that it happened.   But it was a while ago and age does what age does to one's, er, memorythingamagig