Quote from: Alex on October 31, 2022, 06:51:39 PMI've heard a solution I liked the sound of  For every hundred dinghy boys who arrive on our shores, the French lose one fishing licence 

And if that doesn't help, make it 10 yachtsmen to one licence.
And then 10 licences to each illegal invader.

Quote from: Scrumpy on November 01, 2022, 08:09:40 AM Idiots..  They are so stupid they don't realise that the public are 'Fed up'.. 'Pissed off'.. with illegals INVADING our shores.. and it is the public who will elect our next government..
 Braverman told it like it is and she got 'booed' for it.. Booed by the  'do gooders' and the opposition.. and the press..
She is the only one with the guts to speak her mind.. Spineless lot..

Yes, I believe that the present Conservative government, or at least the majority of them, are particularly stupid in thinking only of themselves and failing to realise how many votes they are losing.

I have heard that Braverman has been criticised soundly by the opposition, but also by some of her own party.
Yet another reason why the Conservatives are very likely to lose the next GE simply due to their own behaviour and, in effect, pulling apart from each other because they have now split into various different factions.

Quote from: Scrumpy on November 01, 2022, 08:09:40 AM Idiots..  They are so stupid they don't realise that the public are 'Fed up'.. 'Pissed off'.. with illegals INVADING our shores.. and it is the public who will elect our next government..
 Braverman told it like it is and she got 'booed' for it.. Booed by the  'do gooders' and the opposition.. and the press..
She is the only one with the guts to speak her mind.. Spineless lot..

of bed-wetting bastards ...

Cassandra.. your descriptive words never fail to amuse me..

Quote from: JBR on November 01, 2022, 04:50:39 PMYet another reason why the Conservatives are very likely to lose the next GE simply due to their own behaviour and, in effect, pulling apart from each other because they have now split into various different factions.

I wondered how unlikely the bookies thought they were to win. I'd have put them at close to 10:1 but the odds are surprisingly much better than that. I found it heartening the the LibDems are down on the likes of Lawrence Fox's Reclaim Party 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

I was wrong. That comment I mentioned was from one of her own side!

May I suggest Patrick Jenrick, a Remoaner of course who sat behind Braverman whist she addressed the house without a gesture of support for her. Later on the BBC of course saying that wouldn't "demonise people" and refusing to endorse her very accurate description of an 'invasion'.

A second rate nasty little turd polisher, from the class of Gove. He also has a facial expression suggesting he permanently needs a damn good shite.

Poor England in the hands of such selfish scheming globalist clappers.

Probably a Guardian reader to boot - and how I'd love to boot him!
Mike

I heard that Matt Hancock has lost the Tory whip as he intends to bugger off to Australia for I'm a Celebrity get me out of here. With any luck in a couple of years they'll be putting on a special - I was a Tory Cabinet Minister and I'm already out of there. Useless tossers all.

I don't know if it was any different in earlier times when MPs were not paid, but today it's quite a lucrative career. The career politician is a lazy animal, he joins a party most likely to get him elected, puts himself forward at every opportunity, maybe gets employment in a political capacity, and eventually gets the nomination he covets. Eventually we end up with nearly 650 useless self serving hypocrites and just over half to form a government. Many of them have only ever studied politics and have never worked outside politics. Far from giving us a deep pool of talent we have a shallow puddle of talent at best that have not had to face the realities of life for many years.

I agree klondike, but some of the MPs who have had a tougher life do themselves no favours either when they have some success. Angela Rayner is a prime example.

I think you were actually agreeing with what Ashy posted Mac but I could easily have said the same thing as it is self evidently true.

Sunak was  groomed from the top from the start, how many candidates are given a safe seat like Richmond first off?  I said to my husband quite a few years ago, this bugger is a chosen one and will be our PM one day. He is put in place to deliver the globalist agenda.

Quote from: klondike on November 02, 2022, 09:33:10 AMI think you were actually agreeing with what Ashy posted Mac but I could easily have said the same thing as it is self evidently true.

Yeah, you're right. Sorry Ash.

There are two concepts which, in combination, make our party political system toxic to us in my opinion.
1. The safe constituency;
2. The career politician.

The safe constituency means the incumbent has a well paid job for life, and the career politician is singularly ill equipped to represent anyone but themselves.

Just my opinion of course. Proportional list systems are probably worse as the names at the top of the list are safe. I don't know what the solution is.