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[JBR]

This. But who's listening? Not Rishi. And we'll get more with Kier. 😨

I'm hoping that we'll get a lot less with Reform!

[GrannyMac]

I'm not holding my breath!

[Alex]

Even if Reform only get a couple of MPs, it's a start.

[klondike]

The outcome of the next election could be important if we want a government closer atuned to the common man. Not that we'll get one after it but there is a chance we could at the one after that.


The Conservative party needs wiping out. Once they are history there is a chance that a populist party may arise that can attract the traditional labour voters along with those who vote Conservative now because they can't stand the champagne socialists and their profligate wasting of other people's money.

More likely though is that the Tories will get a drubbing but not enough for a wipeout and Labbour will produce the same high tax and nothing works as we have now but slightly worse. With a possible irrelevant swap back at the one after that.

Nothing to see here folks. Business as usual. Please move along.

[JBR]

The outcome of the next election could be important if we want a government closer atuned to the common man. Not that we'll get one after it but there is a chance we could at the one after that.

The Conservative party needs wiping out. Once they are history there is a chance that a populist party may arise that can attract the traditional labour voters along with those who vote Conservative now because they can't stand the champagne socialists and their profligate wasting of other people's money.

More likely though is that the Tories will get a drubbing but not enough for a wipeout and Labbour will produce the same high tax and nothing works as we have now but slightly worse. With a possible irrelevant swap back at the one after that.

Nothing to see here folks. Business as usual. Please move along.

I think you've hit the nail on the head here, Klon.

For a very long time now in this country, we have had a two-party system.  No-one ever mentions the Liberals, although in Scotland there is a competing party the SNP, though there it could still be seen as a two-party system along with Labour.

As I have said many times, I'd love to see a new party come along which could offer something different from the 'two main parties' who, at least recently (since the 1990s) have been a total lack of any good for the country.

I agree with you, and accept that the next government is likely to be that of the Labour party.  They, I am absolutely certain, will create an even worse situation than what has developed now.  The real problem, as I intimated initially, is that we are so used to having only two real choices of government, but I still have high hopes that having seen the forthcoming disaster of Labour the majority of voters will finally realise that it is time to take the opportunity of a new centre-right political party.

[Diasi]

Even if Reform only get a couple of MPs, it's a start.

I can't see Reform getting any MPs, I'm a member of Reform & will intend voting for them as I walk to the polling station but once I'm looking at the ballot paper I may well think that a vote for Reform will be a vote for Labour.

However, I have the ability to vote for Reform as I live in a constituency with a huge Conservative majority which is highly unlikely to be overturned.

[klondike]

It's that sort of thinking that lead to the shitfest that makes up the current Conservative parliamentary party.

I live in a marginal so the Tories are toast anyway but they'd get my vote regardless.

By they I mean Reform.

[Ashy]

Most people don't take a great interest in politics. That explains how the politicians get away with so much and how they can foist people on us who represent outside interests and themselves before any of us.

If past performance is anything to go on, the conservatives will actually win again but either with a tiny majority or even as largest party in a minority.

But for me, after 13 years of bad government and knowing how bad the labour party is I shall vote reform if they put up a candidate. The constituency where I vote has been a safe labour seat since it was drawn up and we have the usual career scrounger in the chair who will probably be re-elected again to the trough.

[Alex]

I can't see Reform getting any MPs, I'm a member of Reform & will intend voting for them as I walk to the polling station but once I'm looking at the ballot paper I may well think that a vote for Reform will be a vote for Labour.

However, I have the ability to vote for Reform as I live in a constituency with a huge Conservative majority which is highly unlikely to be overturned.

This is a lot different from the 2019 election though.  I just think a lot of Tory voters will not vote Labour, they dislike Sunak and his party so where do they go  ?  As for thinking a vote for Reform is a vote for Labour, well Labour's going to win anyway aren't they  ?

[JBR]

I apologise for my earlier mistake.  The constituency in which I live has always voted for Conservative or Liberal.  Presently we have a Conservative MP who is pretty pointless; I don't think she ever speaks in parliament, just sits there and takes her money.  I have on a few occasions written to her and she has dutifully replied with a pre-written letter which is obviously something produced centrally for all voters who ask the predicted questions.  All she needs is a printer and some stamps!

Naturally, my area will vote Liberal yet again this year, but not I.  I shall vote for Reform, and if my vote makes no difference at all, I am content that it has not supported Conservative, Labour or Liberal.  It will, however, join in the totals recorded for Reform.

We live in a democracy and we can vote for whoever we like.  If most people continue to vote for the 'two main parties', they are obviously happy to continue what has been happening ever since Bliar became PM.  I shall feel no guilt whatsoever.

[Alex]

My area has been Labour ever since there was a large increase of students, previously it was Tory.  I do think students should not be allowed to vote in the town where they study.

[Diasi]

This is a lot different from the 2019 election though.  I just think a lot of Tory voters will not vote Labour, they dislike Sunak and his party so where do they go  ?  As for thinking a vote for Reform is a vote for Labour, well Labour's going to win anyway aren't they  ?

I'm not yet fully convinced that Labour will win, but a vote for Reform could increase the Labour majority if they did win.

January 27, 2024, 01:31:26 PM

My area has been Labour ever since there was a large increase of students, previously it was Tory.  I do think students should not be allowed to vote in the town where they study.

I couldn't agree more, they have no investment or even interest in the area.

[dextrous63]

I was unaware of the student voting situation.  Given the existence of postal voting, it seems totally unnecessary.

[GrannyMac]

I live in what was known as the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire. Our ward in this constituency has had Labour, Lib Dem and Green Councillors in the last 20 years.  Green atm. They have not rested on their laurels unlike Labour, they litter pick and are fairly responsive to local issues.  Not a Tory in sight! The constituency boundaries were changed, and although lots of gentrification has happened in our bit, with a big increase in professionals moving in, the rest of it is very ethnically diverse, and a real Labour stronghold. Can't see that changing.  Our MP was selected to the very safe seat when the previous incumbent, who was her husband, died.  Touch of nepotism maybe?

I'll vote Reform, for all the good it'll do.

[JBR]

I wonder how many students, when registering to vote in their temporary locality, 'forget' to cancel their name on the roll in their home location.
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