Just think if she does......who is her deputy ? God help us all :waiting:
I don't know anything about her deputy. :hmm:
If she is that stupid, the King will ask someone to form a government. I think.
Blow his luck.
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Quote from: Raven on October 14, 2022, 09:12:38 PMI don't know anything about her deputy. :hmm:
Technically Hunt -
we're doomed I tell thee, doomed!
Quote from: Cassandra on October 15, 2022, 03:44:28 PMTechnically Hunt - we're doomed I tell thee, doomed!
Ach Well Now, I've been saying that ever since that government got back in. [1100]
I was under the impression that Therese Coffee was the deputy. However I don't know which was they run if there is a resignation.
Quote from: Ashy on October 15, 2022, 08:17:21 PMI was under the impression that Therese Coffee was the deputy. However I don't know which was they run if there is a resignation.
I wasn't aware Coffey was deputy - good grief! The Chancellor of course therefore comes third.
So its a 'hat - trick' of 'Remainers' now!
I read Theresa was her deputy, you couldn't make it up could you ? 🤓
Quote from: Cassandra on October 15, 2022, 09:37:34 PMI wasn't aware Coffey was deputy - good grief! The Chancellor of course therefore comes third.
So its a 'hat - trick' of 'Remainers' now!
Indeed she is, you'll recall that I referred to her as 'that odious woman' at the time.
October 16, 2022, 09:17:36 AMWe need to listen to the Labour supporters & vote in a Labour Government.
Petrol & diesel 50p a litre
Electricity 5p per kWh
Gas 2p per kWh
State Pensions £500 per week
No hospital waiting lists & 1 GP for every 100 patients
No illegal immigration
A house for everyone.
You know it makes sense so what are we all waiting for?
Quote from: Diasi on October 16, 2022, 09:07:24 AMIndeed she is, you'll recall that I referred to her as 'that odious woman' at the time.
October 16, 2022, 09:17:36 AM
We need to listen to the Labour supporters & vote in a Labour Government.
Petrol & diesel 50p a litre
Electricity 5p per kWh
Gas 2p per kWh
State Pensions £500 per week
No hospital waiting lists & 1 GP for every 100 patients
No illegal immigration
A house for everyone.
You know it makes sense so what are we all waiting for?
Well said Phil, thank you and indeed I do recall your post now, I think I pointed out how she'd relished announcing they were discarding the 'Triple Lock in 2023'.
Wretched woman!
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she seems to have forgotten the oubliette - unless it's the other side of the door, of course
Had to look that one up ! :yay:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Alex on October 16, 2022, 08:36:02 PMHad to look that one up ! :yay:
they're very useful for failed politicians - but might get over-crowded with this lot!
Looking back at the sixties and seventies, many people were keen to join the common market, because they had taken their car to France and found petrol very cheap and wine very cheap, and they naturally assumed that ours would soon be the same. By the time of the referendum in 1975 those hopes were still alive to some extent. In 2016 we were still waiting, and if we elect a Labour government (I don't think they have a good chance really) we'll still be waiting for cheaper gas bills and higher pensions. Fill in any date here because it will not happen.
I think a lot of people who've been saying Liz Truss should go, may rue the day after April 2023 when the energy support scheme gets scrapped, income tax doesn't come down & public spending is cut.
Also, the rich will be putting measures in place to squirrel money away so won't be paying the tax they may well have paid if the tax rates had come down.
So well done all of you!
I think that Truss' overall take is right - but she and what's his name made a right rubbish of trying to sell the message.
Just to take one point at random - reducing corporation tax is the RIGHT way to go - we need to encourage foreign investment it's vital.
Mike
Quote from: Michael Rolls on October 17, 2022, 12:59:24 PMI think that Truss' overall take is right - but she and what's his name made a right rubbish of trying to sell the message.
Just to take one point at random - reducing corporation tax is the RIGHT way to go - we need to encourage foreign investment it's vital.
Mike
We probably do, but I don't want foreign anything we have more than enough.
Quote from: Jacqueline on October 19, 2022, 06:10:40 PMWe probably do, but I don't want foreign anything we have more than enough.
Mike Rolls doesn't mean foreign immigrants, he means foreign finance which is what our financial sector needs as it brings huge wealth into the country.
If it doesn't come here it'll go to Germany.
Quote from: Diasi on October 19, 2022, 08:47:01 PMMike Rolls doesn't mean foreign immigrants, he means foreign finance which is what our financial sector needs as it brings huge wealth into the country.
If it doesn't come here it'll go to Germany.
I know he doesn't mean immigrants, but foreign finance spells foreign influence haven't we got enough of that.
Quote from: Jacqueline on October 19, 2022, 08:51:26 PMI know he doesn't mean immigrants, but foreign finance spells foreign influence haven't we got enough of that.
Investment won't mean foreign influence, they invest in places where they get the best return on their dosh.
Liz Truss just wants to make London more attractive than Frankfurt.
Quote from: Ashy on October 17, 2022, 07:23:52 AMLooking back at the sixties and seventies, many people were keen to join the common market, because they had taken their car to France and found petrol very cheap and wine very cheap, and they naturally assumed that ours would soon be the same. By the time of the referendum in 1975 those hopes were still alive to some extent. In 2016 we were still waiting, and if we elect a Labour government (I don't think they have a good chance really) we'll still be waiting for cheaper gas bills and higher pensions. Fill in any date here because it will not happen.
YouGov poll yesterday showed Labour winning 507 seats if the Election were tomorrow?
It seems a 'Trade deal' nowadays incorporates visas, how long has that been going on I wonder.
Quote from: Alex on October 20, 2022, 12:16:47 AMIt seems a 'Trade deal' nowadays incorporates visas, how long has that been going on I wonder.
Well trade deals with India certainly do, which is why Sunak was desperate to become PM.
Quote from: Cassandra on October 19, 2022, 09:16:04 PMYouGov poll yesterday showed Labour winning 507 seats if the Election were tomorrow?
Although I doubt if the motley party is that well thought of, publishing polls like this probably ensures that there won't be an election until the tide turns.
Quote from: Cassandra on October 19, 2022, 09:16:04 PMYouGov poll yesterday showed Labour winning 507 seats if the Election were tomorrow?
I can see that being a distinct possibility if a General Election is held soon.
Yesterday I was on the verge of cancelling my Tory Party membership but I've had time to give it some non-emotional consideration & I haven't.
Had I been in a polling booth yesterday I could easily have spoilt my ballot paper by which time any reconsideration would be too late.
Quote from: Ashy on October 20, 2022, 09:24:12 AMAlthough I doubt if the motley party is that well thought of, publishing polls like this probably ensures that there won't be an election until the tide turns.
They have as much chance of turning tides as Canute did imo. They are in total disarray.
Truss is making a public statement.
She's had enough of it already.
That's it, Herself is going.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63309400
Nice while it lasted I suppose.
It was one Rocky Ride I'm glad I didn't have to take. 🚲
Wonder who is brave enough to take the job on. 🙄🤔
Very sad.. She didn't stand a chance against all the back stabbing and plotting that went on..
The whole lot need turfing out.. they are a scheming bunch of prats ... I guess Rishi Sunak will be first in line .. again..
Best comedy show on tv at the moment..
I shall soon be on prime minister no. 16
what a farce.
Sooooo, What happens to her now? Does she just go back to the benches with the other MPs?
I guess so.. She, along with many others , will tell whoever is in power how the government should be run..
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 20, 2022, 02:14:25 PMVery sad.. She didn't stand a chance against all the back stabbing and plotting that went on..
The whole lot need turfing out.. they are a scheming bunch of prats ... I guess Rishi Sunak will be first in line .. again..
Best comedy show on tv at the moment..
You're absolutely right. They're too stupid to see how they've now made a mess of their party.
A general election looms, and I have a feeling it won't be too long now.
If she has resigned from a ministerial office she returns to the back bench, The King will ask someone else to try to form a government.
If she asked his majesty to dissolve parliament, and today is wet enough in London, then presumably he will still only do so if nobody else can form a government.
A bit like making bricks without straw.
Will she get a pension after a 45 day ex PM ?
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 20, 2022, 02:14:25 PMVery sad.. She didn't stand a chance against all the back stabbing and plotting that went on..
The whole lot need turfing out.. they are a scheming bunch of prats ... I guess Rishi Sunak will be first in line .. again..
Best comedy show on tv at the moment..
My MP, at the recent Zoom meeting, was brutally scathing about the Tory Party antics & the fact that it'll be arranged so that the membership don't get a vote.
In 2016 those of us who voted Leave were called idiots who should never have been allowed to vote & now, in 2022, those of us who voted for Liz Truss are being called idiots who should never have been allowed to vote.
I can see a lot of members leaving if Sunak gets a 'coronation' leadership.
Quote from: Flying Bomb on October 20, 2022, 04:19:59 PMWill she get a pension after a 45 day ex PM ?
I wondered the same so looked it up. They used to get a pension for life regardless of time in office but that was changed...
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04586/
In the past, there were separate arrangements for the pensions for the three great offices of state – the Prime Minister, Speaker of the House of Commons and Lord Chancellor. These gave entitlement to a pension of half the final office-holder's salary on leaving office, regardless of length of service. Payments were met through the Consolidated Fund (the Government's general bank account). The Public Service Pensions Act 2013 abolished these arrangements for future office-holders, who would instead be covered by the Ministerial Pension Scheme. The pensions of existing office-holders continue to be met from the Consolidated Fund even where they signed a waiver to their full entitlement under the old arrangements – for example, agreeing instead to receive benefits comparable to those under the Ministerial Scheme, or to delay entitlement to age 65.https://www.mypcpfpension.co.uk/active-members/I suspect if you chase all the links through the 2013 act probably improved of the earlier arrangements :nooo:
We will soon know who really rules the roost when they select a new PM, it may be a yes man puppet who will do what they are told or one of the real snakes, we will see.
One thing for sure we are the laughing stock of the world, Putin must think we are a pushover, I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't got invasion plans, nice warm hotels for invaders!!!
Sunak
If that snakey bugger is our PM I am moving abroad :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell: :yell:
It seems they're not going to allow the members to vote, IF the MPs only put one name forward. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Alex on October 20, 2022, 05:26:38 PMIt seems they're not going to allow the members to vote, IF the MPs only put one name forward. :rolleyes:
Yes, that what my MP said would happen, it's the only way of getting round the rules legally.
It's to prevent us plebs from voting for the wrong leader again.
What is in their plan to stop the plebs voting for the wrong party next time though :?:
Quote from: klondike on October 20, 2022, 06:05:36 PMWhat is in their plan to stop the plebs voting for the wrong party next time though :?:
The current crop aren't bright enough to think about that.
Mind you, Labour are doing the same thing on a larger scale as some candidates who are wanted by the local members are being banned from standing as Labour candidates.
I find it all rather depressing
There is a plan in their madness..
I seriously believe that remainers are plotting..
Maybe they should take the best from each party and get them to work together for the good of the country. Not for themselves to look after their own interests.
Seemingly it worked during the last war.
Why do we ask ourselves why the Russian people don't do something about Putin? We seem to put up with any old crap from our own politicians. We moan. Everybody moans. Sod all gets done.
I think the Russian people are afraid, if someone speaks out they tend to disappear. :boo:
Us on the other hand, well now, draw your own conclusions.😉
You wouldn't like mine so I'm saying nowt. :evil:
I suppose we could storm Parliament..
What about this Saturday..!! I can do it after twelve..
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Quote from: klondike on October 20, 2022, 07:13:39 PMWhy do we ask ourselves why the Russian people don't do something about Putin? We seem to put up with any old crap from our own politicians. We moan. Everybody moans. Sod all gets done.
Russians like Mr Putin perhaps
He has full rather than just partial control of the media which doubtless helps.
8pm 20/10/2022
Johnson now sitting at 38 backers with Sunak at 27 and Mordaunt with 12
Still 280 MPs to declare their support
I think they want to make it look like a fair choice, but I think they already know who will be the next PM :boo:
October 20, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
https://order-order.com/2022/10/20/whos-backing-who-the-spreadsheet-returns/
Quote from: Scrumpy on October 20, 2022, 07:08:39 PMThere is a plan in their madness..
I seriously believe that remainers are plotting..
Of course they are.
I can't find my post but I said, either here or int'other place, that the current situation started on the 24th June 2016 after 52% of the voters were stupid enough to vote to leave the EU.
Followed by Tory Party members being stupid enough to vote for two leaders that the Remainers didn't want.
It seems that there will be a membership vote after all so I assume that most of the members have done what I've done & emailed CCHQ to tell them "no vote, no membership" & I've already cancelled my monthly donation to the Party.
I also think that, like me, a lot of members have threatend to cancel their membership as the email says '
if you continue to remain a paying member of the Party, you will be entitled to vote in the contest'.My membership is active until the 2nd November so I can vote no matter what & I want to be able to, once more, vote against Sunak who no doubt will be on the ballot paper.
Dear Phil,
As you will be aware, following the recent resignation of our Prime Minister, a leadership contest will be held to elect the next Leader of the Conservative Party.
Nominations to stand for election will close at 2pm on Monday 24th October. The Parliamentary Party will then vote to decide the final two candidates who will participate in the online member ballot.
As it stands, if you continue to remain a paying member of the Party, you will be entitled to vote in the contest.
The member ballot is due to open Tuesday 25th October and close Friday 28th October at 11am.
Due to the tight deadlines, this will be a fully online ballot - instructions detailing how to vote will be emailed to all members when the ballot opens.
The last time a candidate only needed 20 supporters to get on the ballot - this time it is 100 which means no more than three candidates are possible right from the get-go
Quote from: Michael Rolls on October 21, 2022, 04:07:38 AMThe last time a candidate only needed 20 supporters to get on the ballot - this time it is 100 which means no more than three candidates are possible right from the get-go
Yes, it's been done to try & stop Boris from getting back in because if his name appears on the ballot paper he will be voted back in.
The messages from most of the Party local areas are quite clear on this.
It was a set-up from the start:
1) Use media to get rid of Johnson
2) Try to force Sunak onto party and electorate - (unsuccessful 1st time round), so onto,
Plan B viz:
1) Let Truss get elected
2) Engineer 'circumstances' and supporting flak from the markets (also in on it) to watch her fail.
3) Pretend to be shocked and so facilitate a vote that this time only Sunak can win eliminate democratic risks), by rigging the system.
4) Try to eliminate 'party members' (just an irritating affliction anyway) from the process
5) If not, spend a week of imparting undaunted fear into them to elect Sunak, or watch the party that they no longer have any influence over anyway, disintegrate.
About 240 of these 'Tory' MP's are in reality Globalist double agents, fifth columnists or simply traitors. They infiltrate and pose as Conservatives as the party of governance to gain control of the UK, as they have in Canada, New Zealand, France etc. They actually aim to destroy all other political parties. Just like cuckoo chicks rolling the real eggs out of the nest, until the subjugate implants birds take over. The true 'Conservative party' is annihilated and the pittance it derives from membership replaced by the big Internationalist corporative donors, which of course they either own or influence. Eventually the husk is discarded. Project accomplished.
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