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Title: I absolutely despair...
Post by: klondike on February 27, 2022, 08:44:27 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/02/26/british-spy-boss-lgbt-rights-are-what-distinguish-us-from-putin/

"LGBT+ rights" are the most important "values and hard won freedoms" distinguishing "us" from Russian President Vladimir Putin, Richard Moore, chief of MI6, the UK's Secret Intelligence Service, wrote on Friday.

Really?

Ah now I understand...
Moore highlighted an "LGBT+ support group" within MI6 to illustrate his emphasis of "LGBT+ rights" as the primary philosophy distinguishing "us from Putin."

Introducing P: "I had to move for the job when I joined #MI6, so I was relieved to find out there was an LGBT+ network group. Through the group I've made some great friends in the office, and it's reassuring to know it's there for support if I need it."

— Richard Moore (@ChiefMI6) February 25, 2022


Plus..
Weeks ago, the Times reported that MI6 recently began hiring foreigners as part of its "diversity" agenda.

I wonder how many are Russians.

It's well past time this Woke nonsense was dropped. At one time such men were reckoned to be a security risk. Now it seems that they are in charge.

I don't agree with discrimination against these people but surely their sexual preferences shouldn't be broadcast to the world in association with their official positions?

Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Michael Rolls on February 27, 2022, 09:03:33 AM
Incredible - except that in this day and age, it sadly isn't
Mike
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: 1955vintage on February 27, 2022, 09:40:53 AM
Kim Philby will be laughing his head off.
Title: Re: I Absolutely Despair.
Post by: Diasi on February 27, 2022, 09:48:06 AM
Quote from: 1955vintage on February 27, 2022, 09:40:53 AM
Kim Philby will be laughing his head off.

A true visionary. :grin:
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: crabbyob on February 27, 2022, 10:16:24 AM
we even have female 00's
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Raven on February 27, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
Can't help wondering how they would react if we suddenly found ourselves at war and they were being called up.  :rolleyes: :hmm:
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Alex on February 27, 2022, 12:26:42 PM
Unbloodybelievable   ! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: -Oy- on February 27, 2022, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: Raven on February 27, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
Can't help wondering how they would react if we suddenly found ourselves at war and they were being called up.  :rolleyes: :hmm:
Exactly the same as a heterosexual I'd image.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: zoony on February 27, 2022, 06:10:21 PM
I'd agree with that. The number of soldiers (on both sides ) supposedly gay but still closeted during WWII, had no problem fighting/killing their enemy. Sexuality had nowt to do wi'it.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: crabbyob on February 27, 2022, 06:19:21 PM
i doubt i would feel comfortable in a foxhole with a gay person, but on the other hand i suppose i might have other worries...
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: klondike on February 27, 2022, 07:11:30 PM
I have no problems with gays. I just don't see the need for bloating HR staff with extra outreach positions. Why should their "rights" be any different from anybody else's. Equal treatment for all not additional regulation for some.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: crabbyob on February 27, 2022, 07:36:07 PM
it was like when the ladies were demanding equall rights, no-one suggested men retiring at sixty
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: -Oy- on February 27, 2022, 07:41:06 PM
Quote from: klondike on February 27, 2022, 07:11:30 PM
I have no problems with gays. I just don't see the need for bloating HR staff with extra outreach positions. Why should their "rights" be any different from anybody else's. Equal treatment for all not additional regulation for some.
As an ideal I agree 100% - we're still a long way off non-discrimination though.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: zoony on February 27, 2022, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: crabbyob on February 27, 2022, 06:19:21 PM
i doubt i would feel comfortable in a foxhole with a gay person, but on the other hand i suppose i might have other worries...


I've met quite a lot of gay men in my life crabbyob and not one of 'em ever made a pass at me. They're just not interested in straight men.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Alex on February 27, 2022, 09:10:38 PM
It's not so much the gay part of that statement in the opening post, but the fact MI6 began hiring foreigners as part of its "diversity" agenda.   How does that work if your Dad was Russian  ?
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: klondike on February 27, 2022, 10:26:51 PM
I see no problem with hiring gays either. I do see a problem with the head of MI6 tweeting all that diversity stuff though. Why is it in any way relevant to anything?
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: zoony on February 28, 2022, 12:48:23 AM
Perhaps PR?.. Since the 70's I believe MI5 ran a no-gays operation cos of the obvious drawbacks like blackmail..Now they're short of manpower and all is forgiven..
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Raven on February 28, 2022, 05:48:04 AM
Quote from: -Oy- on February 27, 2022, 05:49:58 PM
Exactly the same as a heterosexual I'd image.
Sorry I didn't mean gays. I meant the lads who think they're lassies and vice versa.
Which army would they be sent to, the men's, the woman's or one they think they should go to.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: klondike on February 28, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: zoony on February 28, 2022, 12:48:23 AM
Perhaps PR?.. Since the 70's I believe MI5 ran a no-gays operation cos of the obvious drawbacks like blackmail..Now they're short of manpower and all is forgiven..
Highlights my point to some extent. There is no longer any shame in being gay and I doubt much discrimination either. I can't see why PR, positive discrimination, outreach programs, diversity advisers etc. are required any more.

Of course not being black, gay, ginger, Welsh or a muslim I never personally experienced any of the snidyness those categories can attract and thought/hoped it had all mostly gone into the history books but if that isn't so maybe there is some sort of need. At least for less well protected minorities such as Welsh and gingers.
Title: Re: I absolutely despair...
Post by: Diasi on February 28, 2022, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: klondike on February 28, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
Highlights my point to some extent. There is no longer any shame in being gay and I doubt much discrimination either. I can't see why PR, positive discrimination, outreach programs, diversity advisers etc. are required any more.

Of course not being black, gay, ginger, Welsh or a muslim I never personally experienced any of the snidyness those categories can attract and thought/hoped it had all mostly gone into the history books but if that isn't so maybe there is some sort of need. At least for less well protected minorities such as Welsh and gingers.

Just spare a thought for the ginger Welsh.