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Title: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 09:10:07 AM



I went out very early this morning..
I noticed one of my rear indicator lights is not working..
I don't want to take it into the garage.. Far too expensive..
Is it an easy/ simple thing to do.. ?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Indicator Light.
Post by: Diasi on May 15, 2022, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 09:10:07 AM

I went out very early this morning..
I noticed one of my rear indicator lights is not working..
I don't want to take it into the garage.. Far too expensive..
Is it an easy/ simple thing to do.. ?  Thank you.

It depends on the definition of simple & I've often found that a quick thump on the rear light cluster may get it to work until I've had a chance to look at the bulb.

What car is it? Make, model & year & offside or nearside?
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Raven on May 15, 2022, 09:42:30 AM
I believe Halfords will replace it for you.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 09:44:00 AM



She is a very old Peugeot 206.. The rear light on the opposite side of the driver.. :hmm:
I think it is best to get someone to do it for me..
How far away do you live Diasi.. ?


Halfords.. !!  I will check where my nearest one is.. Thank you..
Title: Re: Indicator Light.
Post by: Diasi on May 15, 2022, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 09:44:00 AM

She is a very old Peugeot 206.. The rear light on the opposite side of the driver.. :hmm:
I think it is best to get someone to do it for me..
How far away do you live Diasi.. ?

Halfords.. !!  I will check where my nearest one is.. Thank you..

192 miles away.

The year's important as changing bulbs seems to get trickier the newer the car.

We've got a 2007 Peugeot 307 & I can change any of the rear bulbs in about 5 minutes.

Halfords will do it for about £16 plus the cost of the bulb.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: -Oy- on May 15, 2022, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: Diasi on May 15, 2022, 09:54:06 AM
The year's important as changing bulbs seems to get trickier the newer the car.
I remember my Wife's Honda Jazz needing a new headlight bulb. You had to remove the front wheel and the plastic inner wing to get at it!
Title: Re: Indicator Light.
Post by: Diasi on May 15, 2022, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: -Oy- on May 15, 2022, 09:56:16 AM
I remember my Wife's Honda Jazz needing a new headlight bulb. You had to remove the front wheel and the plastic inner wing to get at it!

Our Peugeot 307 front fog lights require the removal of the bumper which requires the removal of the inner wing liners.

The headlight bulbs are a self-fit if you have plenty of patience & don't mind the odd cut to your hands.

I did pay the garage to fit the last set of headlight bulbs, it took them 30 minutes so it was £20 which was well worth it.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 11:26:24 AM



Thank you.. I think Halfords is my best bet..
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Raven on May 15, 2022, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 11:26:24 AM


Thank you.. I think Halfords is my best bet..

I'd give them a quick phone first, make sure they will do it.  :wink:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 15, 2022, 03:42:19 PM
Check Youtube first. It may be an easy job. Bulb changes often are.

Not sure if this one covers your model. If not search using the year too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVN21ruZ_1I
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 15, 2022, 05:15:43 PM
My Citroen XM was a doddle to change the nearside front sidelight - the offside - an absolute pig leading to sliced knuckles on a sharp piece of metal adjacent to the housing - oh, and you had to get under car to reach either of them
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: -Oy- on May 15, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
Just checked how to change my indicator buld and it looks real easy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWqRG-p-W8A
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 15, 2022, 07:06:04 PM
I have checked indicator lights and it would appear that both front and rear on left side are not working..
The indicator arrow light shows up on the dashboard but instead of a steady slow ticking it goes potty.
Am I right in thinking that it could be an electric fault rather than just the bulbs needing replacing . ?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: -Oy- on May 15, 2022, 09:35:37 PM
Could be a fuse
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 15, 2022, 10:04:18 PM
The fuse box layout from
https://fuseandrelay.com/peugeot/206.html
says a single fuse services a whole bunch of lights...

F5   (20A / 30A) Front fog lights, signal, side / rear lights

https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/206-indicator-relay-replacement.4329/

Holds some bad news about the relays if the problem lies there because a garage fix would be pretty expensive
https://www.peugeotforums.com/threads/206-indicator-relay-replacement.4329/

It is easy enough to visually inspect a bulb to see if it is blown or not (the filament will either be entirely missing or there should be a visible break in it) so that would be the first thing I'd check on whichever bulb is easiest to get out.
If it is the flasher unit then there appears to be a possible bodge in the page I linked to. I'd be inclined to look for a used replacement (ebay or local source).

In the good old days these things used to be a cheap plug in unit that usually sat in the dash wiring near the steering wheel. Progress  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Diasi on May 16, 2022, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: -Oy- on May 15, 2022, 09:35:37 PM
Could be a fuse
It could well be now that she says more than one bulb isn't working.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: -Oy- on May 16, 2022, 09:14:56 AM
Quote from: Diasi on May 16, 2022, 09:13:47 AM
In which case more than one bulb wouldn't work.
She said two - which is why I said fuse.
Title: Re: Indicator Light.
Post by: Diasi on May 16, 2022, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: -Oy- on May 16, 2022, 09:14:56 AM
She said two - which is why I said fuse.

Yes I know, I hadn't seen that she'd amended her problem to two bulbs not working when I replied.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 16, 2022, 09:24:01 AM
If it was a fuse there would be a whole raft of bulbs not working and none of the indicators. See my earlier post on which fuse the indicators are probably on depending on year.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 16, 2022, 09:57:27 AM



Unbelievable !! .. I checked this morning.. They are working.. All of them..!!!
  Obviously something isn't quite right.. But I will bide my time before putting her into a garage..


I remember a few months back my speed indicator got stuck for a few days.. Then righted itself..
Could it be that she is just an old lady .. !!
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 16, 2022, 10:41:01 AM
Keep you fingers crossed. One of those links I made mentioned that the flasher control unit did other stuff too and cost £200  :shocked:

My daughter's car (my old 308) has a similar problem but that sounds like a bad earth as none of the bulbs in that cluster work. I'll probably end up trying to fix that. Google says its a common fault with those.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Alex on May 16, 2022, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: Scrumpy on May 16, 2022, 09:57:27 AM


Unbelievable !! .. I checked this morning.. They are working.. All of them..!!!
  Obviously something isn't quite right.. But I will bide my time before putting her into a garage..


I remember a few months back my speed indicator got stuck for a few days.. Then righted itself..
Could it be that she is just an old lady .. !!

Absolutely Scrumpy ! a drop of rainwater in the works maybe ?
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 16, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
My neighbour  (over the fence) said that he sometimes has problems with the electrics in his motor.. which is far younger than mine..
Problems that often right themselves..
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 16, 2022, 06:05:32 PM
With bulbs it can just be a bit of corrosion messing up the contact.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 16, 2022, 06:07:50 PM
I don't really want to trade her in..
Better the devil you know...  :evil:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 16, 2022, 06:10:49 PM
Spot on IMO. If it's an old car it isn't worth anything anyway and any you buy secondhand can have more problems than the one you are replacing. New cars lose several thousand just by being driven off the forecourt for the first time.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 16, 2022, 07:22:32 PM
She was a lovely new motor when I bought her..
I wouldn't want anyone else turning her steering wheel.. !!!


Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 16, 2022, 08:44:43 PM
How old is the lady?
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 16, 2022, 09:41:03 PM
How rude! You'll be asking what she weighs next.  :grin:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 16, 2022, 10:22:28 PM
well?
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 17, 2022, 08:42:48 AM
I'd guess at 164 stone 10lbs (excluding handbag).
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 17, 2022, 09:11:55 AM



She is a stunning 22 year old..  :clap: :yahoo: :clap:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 17, 2022, 10:06:48 AM
Few EVs will be able to boast that. I doubt any will ever get their batteries replaced as it was o in of make no economic sense.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 17, 2022, 10:26:35 AM
One think about the Hybrid Mondeo - that huge battery in the boot (as is the normal battery) has clearly altered the weight distribution, to the point that the front end is quite squirrelly under hard acceleration - not something in which to indulge on a slippery surface.
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 17, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
The acceleration on a hybrid is going to be better than a typical internal combustion engine. Maybe you are burning more rubber?
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Scrumpy on May 17, 2022, 11:28:51 AM



She was the biz all those years back..
Automatic wipers.. lights.. etc;   Silver in colour... could shift her ass at the lights..


She turned many a head.. I liked going out with her. :wink:


The only thing she wasn't too hot on was reversing..
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 17, 2022, 11:37:25 AM
Some  cars are like that unfortunately.  :sad:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 18, 2022, 04:14:05 AM
Quote from: klondike on May 17, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
The acceleration on a hybrid is going to be better than a typical internal combustion engine. Maybe you are burning more rubber?
despite 2 litre engine and the electric motor to help, the acceleration on the hybrid is definitely less than with its predecessor which was only 1.5. I am talking about typical overtaking acceleration from 40 or so to 70 or so. Don't know how they would compare from a standing start - nor interested for that matter. I don't know how much the battery weighs, but seeing it occupies the whole width of the boot and a third of its depth it must be a fair amount and its centre of gravity is fractionally behind the rear axle. Be interesting to see how it copes on ice/snow come winter.
Don't get me wrong - the acceleration is adequate, just less that its predecessor, which felt much more assured when you put your foot down, no squirrelly sensation.
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 18, 2022, 09:14:57 AM
I guess the hybrid has the disadvantange of a double weight penalty - batteries plus engine although I assumed that the batteries would be a lot less than a full EV. My son's electric goes like the proverbial excrement off a shovel. It outperforms his other car (a BMW which he keeps for holidays and the like because of the lack of charging points) and that one is certainly no slouch.

Can't guess on the handling but the truth is few of the current generation of EVs were designed from the ground up as EVs so battery placement will likely be a compromise for them. His was a ground up EV design and I think just about the whole floor area is a battery.

The warmer weather is improving the economy too. He sent me a whatsapp pic showing 4.1 miles per kilowatt from his trip to work yesterday. Colder weather makes it worse apparently.
Title: Re: Indicator Light.
Post by: Diasi on May 18, 2022, 09:22:46 AM
The problem with an EV, unless used locally as a shopping trolley, is that it can take 6 hours to do a 3 hour journey.

You know how twitchy you can get when the petrol gauge drops into the red, well it seems to be like that all the time when driving an EV from the videos I've watched.

Range anxiety I think it's called.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 18, 2022, 09:30:51 AM
There was a comment I heard on Farage about one of those that took 11 hours because there aren't enough charge points. I think it said the installation rate needed to rise by 350% for there to be enough around for the 2030 EV only plan to be viable. My son got one mostly for journeys to and from work as he can charge at home overnight. As usual for him, who should he trip always seems to fall into a barrel of roses (unlike his sister who is the exact opposite), he got it just before fuel prices started to skyrocket and 4 miles for every (economy seven) kilowatt hour knocks spots of petrol or diesel pricing and still would if (when?) it doubles.
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 19, 2022, 03:47:49 AM
well, the hybrid does 49 mpg compared to 32 for its predecessor. Earlier, I said it cost £5,000 more; in fact, after more careful checking, it actually cost £8,000 more. As I spend a bit under £1,000 a year on petrol (even at today's prices) that £8,000 would pay for an awful lot of miles.
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 19, 2022, 09:20:16 AM
Individuals chose their vehicles based on need and preference. From what you've said you chose yours because you prefer newer cars and wanted essentially the same car but couldn't get it. Had that been me I would have just kept the one I had for longer as I put no great value on having a car no more than 3 years. That £8k would pay for a lot of taxis and garage bills too should the worse come to the worse which I doubt it would. 
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Michael Rolls on May 19, 2022, 09:40:40 AM
very true.
Mike
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: Raven on May 19, 2022, 11:40:22 AM
Fortunately for my wallet I am not one who needs/wants a bang up to date Posing Car that gets renewed over n over. The longest I kept a car was 12 years, and it wasn't new when I got it. That was my first Range Rover, I loved that car, I called her Black Bess. The Yeti I have now is going into her 3rd year with me.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VJ40sS5x/Rox-on-top-of-Glen-Quaich.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJ40sS5x)
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 19, 2022, 12:26:09 PM
I have always kept cars until any repair cost looked to be uneconomic. Car dealers are rich enough without me enriching them more than I have to. In the early days that usually meant buying a car with a year's MOT then scrapping it  :smiley:
Title: Re: Indicator light.
Post by: klondike on May 25, 2022, 03:14:42 PM
Sorry about posting so many of these. I was checking out the new forum on the Pi and found that the RSS feeds which I like most had pretty much forgotten weren't working (it turned out to be an error with php on the Pi rather than anything wrong with the forum) but I got to reading through the feed from the Daily Mash and have been chuckling away to myself.

Anyway last one...

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/lifestyle/even-bmw-drivers-think-tesla-drivers-are-arseholes-20220524221380 (https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/lifestyle/even-bmw-drivers-think-tesla-drivers-are-arseholes-20220524221380)


Even BMW drivers think Tesla drivers are arseholes

(https://cdn.thedailymash.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/20220524110637/tesla-model-s667x375.jpg)

TESLA drivers are considered to be wankers even by BMW drivers, they have confirmed.
Record Tesla sales mean motorists in luxury vehicles across the country are discovering that Tesla owners are by far the biggest knobs on the road.

Ryan Whittaker, who drives a BMW Z4, said: "Apparently their cars are so technologically advanced they don't need to indicate. Presumably other drivers get an automated email when they change lane.

"Selfish arseholes act like they own the f**king road just because they overpaid 20 grand for the marque of their twatmobiles."

Audi driver Tom Booker agreed: "At least half the cars that cut me up are Teslas. All that self-driving bollocks mean they've no idea how to drive. They're always bursting into flames. Serve them right for not buying German."

Cryptocurrency trader Martin Bishop, owner of a Tesla Model S, said: "I should have exclusive use of the outside lane on motorways. I'm too busy to be flashing lights behind old-fashioned polluting cars.

"Indicators? I think the car can handle that by itself, don't you? For £115k I bloody hope so."