Who blew it up then - any theories ?
Sleepy Joe's minders may be responsible :grin: but who gains from this ?
Papers think it was Putin. :nooo: But who knows. [1150]
Someone in the NATO cartel probably. Russia definitely not, why would they when they'll have to repair it, and they have a gas tap at their end.
Iran ? :lipsrsealed:
Probably Germany had an accident trying to bypass the meter....
A Russian passport was found near the explosion site ! Now we KNOW it wasn't the Russians. :grin: Reminds me of those old war films when the sub sat on the bottom of the ocean would release items to make the enemy ships think they'd sunk.
Quote from: Alex on September 29, 2022, 11:17:35 AMA Russian passport was found near the explosion site ! Now we KNOW it wasn't the Russians. :grin: Reminds me of those old war films when the sub sat on the bottom of the ocean would release items to make the enemy ships think they'd sunk.
Your going to take your Passport when you go off to blow up a gas pipeline aren't you?
Exactly !
You have to ask who stands to gain the most. I've seen a list of suspects.
Russia
USA
Poland
Ukraine
The Russians were using gas as a bargaining chip to get sanctions lifted. That bargaining chip has now gone. Plus they could have just turned it off. So I reckon
Russia
USA were talking about stopping Nord stream 2 and were apparently holding some naval exercise in just that area a couple of weeks back. So I reckon
USA - maybe
Poland stands to gain if the pipeline going through there is the only one. So I reckon
Poland - a weak possibility. Cruella van der Layen and the Krauts would be seriously miffed if they got caught.
Ukraine stand to gain if Russia loses the gas bargaining chip. But the shit would really hit the fan if they got caught.
My bet would be the yanks but I wouldn't bet the housekeeping on any of them.
Quote from: klondike on September 29, 2022, 12:04:49 PMYou have to ask who stands to gain the most. I've seen a list of suspects.
Russia
USA
Poland
Ukraine
The Russians were using gas as a bargaining chip to get sanctions lifted. That bargaining chip has now gone. Plus they could have just turned it off. So I reckon
Russia
USA were talking about stopping Nord stream 2 and were apparently holding some naval exercise in just that area a couple of weeks back. So I reckon
USA - maybe
Poland stands to gain if the pipeline going through there is the only one. So I reckon
Poland - a weak possibility. Cruella van der Layen and the Krauts would be seriously miffed if they got caught.
Ukraine stand to gain if Russia loses the gas bargaining chip. But the shit would really hit the fan if they got caught.
My bet would be the yanks but I wouldn't bet the housekeeping on any of them.
My money would be on the Yanks, they've already been caught out for funding the Wuhan Flu lab in China.
Russia only has to blame a faulty pump in order to turn off the gas supply.
Quote from: Diasi on September 29, 2022, 05:26:25 PMMy money would be on the Yanks,
Mr Biden said, in a filmed interview, that the USA would stop Nordstream 2.
Yes. I saw his comments. Sleepy Joe may have said more than he was supposed to. I'm surprised they let him know anything of any importance.
Just imagine the uproar if Trump had been in power and ordered this. TBH I can't see them letting sleepy Joe order anything can you ?
He is well on the way to being completely senile imo. I can't believe that he does anything other than read out what somebody tells him to and he seems to muff that up half the time too.
His deputy is no better. Recently filmed telling the world she is proud that the USA is allied with North Korea.
There are 300 million people in the USA. Are these two really the best they can do?
I saw that. I'm not sure if she is a deputy of some sort for when he is taking a nap or the vice president though.
Quote from: Ashy on September 29, 2022, 10:33:44 PMHis deputy is no better. Recently filmed telling the world she is proud that the USA is allied with North Korea.
There are 300 million people in the USA. Are these two really the best they can do?
Oooops ! :cool:
Quote from: klondike on September 30, 2022, 09:25:44 AMI saw that. I'm not sure if she is a deputy of some sort for when he is taking a nap or the vice president though.
My understanding of the adjective "vice" here means deputy. Of course it could mean who organises visits to private islands and other activities.
I think the US Vice President is more than a gopher. I'll see if I can find out.
It's the VP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL-X5K-vjyQ
It makes a change for one of her speeches to camera to make any sense whatsoever. The vice president has some defined duties as far as I know but the principle is "in the place of" so the presidium can be in two places at once.
Mike Pence, for example, could have asked some of the states to audit the last election but he chose not to.
I thought in the main VP duties were akin to the heir to the throne - hang around in case needed and try not to cause too many embarrassments. Last one needed was LBJ when Kennedy was shot. All the rest since have just been an expense for the taxpayer.
As i understand it the VP signs off the election with the college at the end of their term. I may be wrong of course.
You probably aren't. In truth I know nothing about the duties of American politicians. As you may have spotted.
VP chairs the Senate IIRC