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Alex

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Sweden & Finland
« on: May 12, 2022, 10:17:51 am »
Yesterday Boris signed a treaty offering UK military aid to Sweden and Finland should they be invaded. 
They're not NATO members, so what has this to do with UK ?  If Sweden and Finland decide not to join NATO would this mean UK defends them on our own ? The EU seems a bit quiet........

I guess because we voted in the Tories, they're doing this on our behalf, nobody asked me.  :worried:

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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2022, 10:26:46 am »
Finnish PM has said it is vital they join NATO ASAP
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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2022, 12:07:04 pm »
That'll please Putin  :rolleyes:

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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2022, 12:27:00 pm »
This is all going to end in tears.  :cry:

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2022, 07:40:14 pm »
I think it was an offer of interim aid while the process for them to become NATO members completes.

There is no easy option here. If you let Putin do just what he wants it is at least as dangerous as helping those under more direct threat defend themselves. Appeasing Hitler lead to a 5 year world war.

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2022, 09:41:02 pm »
I think it was an offer of interim aid while the process for them to become NATO members completes.

There is no easy option here. If you let Putin do just what he wants it is at least as dangerous as helping those under more direct threat defend themselves. Appeasing Hitler lead to a 5 year world war.
And 60 million premature deaths
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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2022, 05:20:30 am »
And 60 million premature deaths
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And if Putin looses too much face and did ever press his button it will lead to billions of deaths.

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 08:04:32 am »
Hopefully some of his people will stop him doing that, it would also sign Russia's death warrant as the response would be immediate and deadly from others with the same weapon, especially the US.

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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 10:40:03 am »
I think it was an offer of interim aid while the process for them to become NATO members completes.

There is no easy option here. If you let Putin do just what he wants it is at least as dangerous as helping those under more direct threat defend themselves. Appeasing Hitler lead to a 5 year world war.

Of course, if we hadn't helped Poland, WW2 wouldn't have happened.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 10:46:20 am »
Sorry, Phil, but that just isn't a credible scenario. Hitler's ambitions would not have been sated by further appeasement
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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 02:48:42 pm »
And if Putin looses too much face and did ever press his button it will lead to billions of deaths.
So perhaps we should just walk in and reclaim our lost empire? Anybody interferes we'll just nuke 'em?

The principal of Mutually Assured Destruction applies now as it has from when these things were first produced. If Putin launches nukes then everybody could lose maybe but one thing that is certain is that Russia will most certainly lose. Putin may give launch orders but the launch requires the actions of many others for it to happen.

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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 07:18:15 pm »
Being in partnership with Finland we can put our subs in their waters, where we can keep a close eye on Russia. Finland have a well trained armed forces so a very good partnership.
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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2022, 08:46:08 pm »
Turkey will veto both joining NATO

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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2022, 08:52:34 pm »
I read today that Putin has said that he will tolerate Sweden and Finland joining NATO as long as there are no NATO bases there.
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Re: Sweden & Finland
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:13:51 am »
Putin's got no say in the matter, and shown the world just how weak his arm forces are.
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