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Title: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Alex on August 27, 2023, 11:36:38 AM
Well done Nadine for telling it how it is !   Incase you haven't read it, here's her resignation letter.

https://news.sky.com/story/nadine-dorries-resignation-letter-in-full-as-she-accuses-rishi-sunak-of-whipping-up-a-public-frenzy-against-her-12948384

p.s. it is a little drawn out as she blows her own trumpet, but she does call out Sunak rather well.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: klondike on August 27, 2023, 12:23:25 PM
Still a year to go til the election. Doubtless another embarrassing by election of course. Too late to swap leader. The best Sunak can hope for is to avoid a Labour landslide. I doubt he will. He's a pretty invisible leader.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 27, 2023, 12:33:41 PM
Wow! What a letter!
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: klondike on August 27, 2023, 12:37:16 PM
I didn't read far. Bit too tedious for me on this busy day...
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: GrannyMac on August 27, 2023, 02:15:05 PM
Thanks for this Alex.  She's spot on re Sunak, and the powers held by the few. 
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: klondike on August 27, 2023, 06:23:43 PM
eMail from Reform suggests that they will be putting a lot of effort into the by election. I wish them well but realistically have low expectations.  If only. If only.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Diasi on August 27, 2023, 07:43:12 PM
Quote from: GrannyMac on August 27, 2023, 02:15:05 PMThanks for this Alex.  She's spot on re Sunak, and the powers held by the few.
I've never bought a book in my life but I'll probably buy hers.

She hasn't said anything that I & other local Tory Party members haven't said about the way CCHQ Remainers & Remainer MPs dismantled Boris Johnson & Liz Truss.

I'm on record as telling our local Tory MP that Sunak being shoehorned into office would wipe out the Party.

Personally I hope that Labour win a landslide majority in 2024 & I can then spend what may well be the rest of my life laughing as the country goes totally down the pan.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: JBR on August 27, 2023, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: Diasi on August 27, 2023, 07:43:12 PMI've never bought a book in my life but I'll probably buy hers.

She hasn't said anything that I & other local Tory Party members haven't said about the way CCHQ Remainers & Remainer MPs dismantled Boris Johnson & Liz Truss.

I'm on record as telling our local Tory MP that Sunak being shoehorned into office would wipe out the Party.

Personally I hope that Labour win a landslide majority in 2024 & I can then spend what may well be the rest of my life laughing as the country goes totally down the pan.
I can see your point.
The problem is that whether or not Labour form the next government, the country has probably had it anyway.
I'm sorry to appear so negative, but without going into details most of the damage has already been done.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Alex on August 28, 2023, 01:01:03 AM
I think you're right JBR , no going back from the damage done
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Diasi on August 28, 2023, 08:09:18 AM
Quote from: JBR on August 27, 2023, 11:03:54 PMI can see your point.
The problem is that whether or not Labour form the next government, the country has probably had it anyway.
I'm sorry to appear so negative, but without going into details most of the damage has already been done.
I agree.

The rot started in 1997 when Blair, who thought was the new Messiah, achieved his landslide victory which enabled him to open the immigration floodgates & destabalise the Middle East.

The next Tory / LibDem government did nothing to put on the immigration brakes as the LibDems had to be kept happy.

By the time the Tories managed to form a large majority Government under Boris Johnson it was already going to be a huge uphill struggle to reverse the damage.

Of course since 2016 it's the Supreme Court that has been able to scupper all attempts to stop out-of-control immigration & anything else it didn't agree with.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: JBR on August 28, 2023, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: Diasi on August 28, 2023, 08:09:18 AMI agree.

The rot started in 1997 when Blair, who thought was the new Messiah, achieved his landslide victory which enabled him to open the immigration floodgates & destabalise the Middle East.

The next Tory / LibDem government did nothing to put on the immigration brakes as the LibDems had to be kept happy.

By the time the Tories managed to form a large majority Government under Boris Johnson it was already going to be a huge uphill struggle to reverse the damage.

Of course since 2016 it's the Supreme Court that has been able to scupper all attempts to stop out-of-control immigration & anything else it didn't agree with.
So our democracy has now effectively become a kritocracy.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 28, 2023, 10:56:38 AM
looking some of the idiotic policies being pursued, oerhaps a new word is needed. How about clownocracy?
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: klondike on August 28, 2023, 11:03:44 AM
I'd thought of something ruder but decided to keep it to myself
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 28, 2023, 11:10:00 AM
 :grin:  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: JBR on August 28, 2023, 11:19:28 AM
Quote from: klondike on August 28, 2023, 11:03:44 AMI'd thought of something ruder but decided to keep it to myself
I think you probably have in mind a s***ocracy.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: klondike on August 28, 2023, 11:56:44 AM
There's that too but it was ruder still.  :grin:
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Ashy on August 28, 2023, 01:54:22 PM
Unfortunately when you get towards the end she criticises Mr Sunak for his lack of enthusiasm for the net zero nonsense, which (lack) might well be all that can save him.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Diasi on August 28, 2023, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Ashy on August 28, 2023, 01:54:22 PMUnfortunately when you get towards the end she criticises Mr Sunak for his lack of enthusiasm for the net zero nonsense, which (lack) might well be all that can save him.
Yes, I noticed that, I'm not a huge fan of hers but it'll be interesting to read about the inside shenanigans of CCHQ.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Cassandra on August 28, 2023, 04:56:49 PM
What a remarkable letter. In my opinion an excellent guide for all who wish to draw attention to the truth by adroit and succinct referral. Revealing the axiom of weakness and the paucity of skill and wisdom available. I fear the old country is doomed for at least what life I can expect to live out - here in the land of my mother's family.

The Woke have a stronger hold here, the land of their origin, but they are shaky and we don't have a Trump (don't write and say thank goodness :grin: )

Well done dear lady, we don't have enough like you I'm afraid. She certainly picked her time well to injure her tormentor.

"Hell hath o fury, ..."

Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 29, 2023, 03:40:44 AM
didn't like her support for net zero, but apart from that...
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Diasi on August 29, 2023, 07:45:10 AM
I liked her plan to cancel the TV Licence funding of the BBC.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 29, 2023, 08:32:59 AM
me too
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Diasi on August 29, 2023, 08:43:45 AM
Despite being anti HoL, I think that cancelling her nomination to join the HoL was a petty move to get at Boris Johnson.

I can think of far worse people in the HoL, one-trick-pony Doreen Lawrence for one.

£332 a day plus expenses for a platform to keep banging on about her son.
Title: Re: Nadine Dorres
Post by: Alex on September 03, 2023, 12:21:52 AM
The publish date of Nadine 's book on the downfall of Boris has been delayed.  She has posted this on Twatter :

" 10 Downing Street are pushing a line that I have been silenced and my book has been delayed because I have broken the ministerial code.

Here is what the code says: "former Ministers intending to publish their memoirs are required to submit the draft manuscript in good time before publication to the Cabinet Secretary and to conform to the principles set out in the Radcliffe report".

' The Plot '  is not a memoir. What they don't seem to get is that it's not about me or my time in office, it's all about them.

It'll be worth the wait. "